chuck Posted January 29, 2000 Share Posted January 29, 2000 There is rumor of the impending release of another update to the EOS 1N, to be called EOS 1V. Anyone has any concrete info on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrett_adams Posted January 29, 2000 Share Posted January 29, 2000 The best info I've seen to date is pasted below: <p> SUBJECT: NEW CANON EOS 1v - Major specificationsDATE: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:45:47 GMTORGANIZATION: Deja.com - Before you buy.NEWSGROUPS: rec.photo.equipment.35mm <p> Today, I have talked to my local Canon dealer and I can confirm:1// Canon has suspended the production of the Canon EOS 1N2// The new Canon EOS 1v replace Canon EOS 1n <p> Here is official data sheet. <p> CANON EOS 1 v - Major Specifications <p> - Type 35 mm AF/AE single-lens reflex with focal-plane shutter andbuilt-in motor drive. Picture size : 24 mm x 36 mm- Compatible lenses : Canon EF lenses. Lens mount : Canon EF mount <p> Viewfinder- Type : Eye-level pentaprism.- Picture coverage : 100 percent vertically and horizontally (20 mm eye relief)- Magnification : 0.72x (-1 diopter with SOmm lens at infinity)- Built-in dioptric correction-S - +1 diopter. (Standard diopter : -1 dpt)- Focusing screen : Interchangeable (9 types), Standard focusing screen- Mirror : Quick-return half mirror (Transmission : reflection ratio of 37 : 63, no vignetting with FE 1200 mm f/5.6 or shorter lens)- Viewfinder information : (1) On the screen : Area AF ellipse, focusingpoints, center spot metering circle(2) Below the screen : Manual exposure setting, AF lock, flash ready,unsuitable, FE lock warning, high-speed sync (PP flash), shutter speed,FE lock (FEL), bulb (buLb), focusing point selection mode, depth-of-fieldAL (dep 1, 2), aperture, exposure compensation/flash exposure compensation, in-focus indicator. (3) Right of screen : Exposure level scale (+-stops), exposure levelindicator, flash exposure level, frame counter, frame count down indicator.- Depth-of-field Preview : Enabled with depth-of-field preview button- Eyepiece shutter : Built4n <p> Exposure Control- Metering modes : TTL max. aperture metering with a 21-zone silicon photocell.(1) Evaluative metering (linkable to any focusing point)(2) Partial metering (approx. 8.5 % of viewfinder at center)(3) Center spot metering (approx. 2.4 % of viewfinder at center)(4) Focusing point4inked spot metering (approx. 2.4 % of viewfinder)(5) Multi-spot metering (Max. 8 spot metering entries)(6) Centerweighted averaging meteringExposure Control Methods : 1 Program AL (shiftable), 2 Shutterspeed-priority AL, 3 Aperture-priority AL, 4 Depth-of-field AL (notshiftable), 5 F-TTL program flash AL, 6 A-TTL program flash AL, 7 TTLprogram flash AL, 8 Manual, 9 Bulb (Safety shift possible for 2and3.) <p> Metering range : LV 0-20 for all metering modes (at 20 C/68 F with SOmmf/1.4 lens, 150 100) ISO film speed range : ISO 6-6400 (Setautomatically <p> with fiX-coded film at ISO 25-5000.)Exposure compensation (1) : Autoexposure bracketing (AEB) : +-3 stops in1/3-stop increments. (2) Manual exposure compensation up to +-3 stops in1/3-stop increments set with the Quick Control Dial AEB and manual exposurecompensation can be set together.AE Lock : (1) Auto AL lock : Operates in One-Shot AL mode with evaluative <p> Metering when focus is achieved.(2) Manual AL lock : AL lock button activates AL lock in all metering modes.Multiple exposures : Max. 9 multiple exposures per frame. (Cancelable andresettable at any time.) Cancels automatically after all multiple exposuresare taken. <p> AntofocusType : TTL-ARLA-SIR with a CMOS sensorFocusing points : Area AL with 45 focusing pointsAF working range : LV 0-18 (at 150 100)Focusing modes :(1) One-Shot AF : Autofocus stops when focus is achieved, resulting in AL lock.(2) Al Servo AL : Tracks subject movement up to the start of exposure.No in-focus indicator (blinks at 8 Hz only if AL fails).(3) Manual focusing : Enabled with the focusing ring when the lens focusmode is set to ME (or M). Electronic manual focusing during continuousshooting and exposure is enabled with PB-F2 and NP-F2.In-focus indicator : Flashing focusing point in viewfinder (can bedisabled with a Custom Function), in-focus indicator, and beeper (can be disabled with the Main Switch). <p> Focusing point selection.(1) : Automatic selection : Focusing point camera-selected.(2) Manual selection : Focusing point manually-selected.Foctsingpoinl rtgi'straIioll and swiaching..Any one focusing point, 45-pointautomatic selection can be registered by pressing the Assist button and FElock button. Pressing the Assist button and focusing point selector switchesto the registered focusing point. AF focusing point indicator.Superimposed focusing point in viewfinder and also indicated on LCD panel AF-assist beam : Emitted automatically by the attached LOS Speedlite when necessary. <p> ShutterType : Vertical-travel, focal-plane shutter with all speeds electronically-controlled. Shutter speeds : 30 to 1/8000 sec. in 1/3-stops, X-sync at 1/250 sec. Shutter release : Soft-touch electromagnetic release Self-timer : 10-sec. or 2-sec. delay. <p> Film TransportFilm loading : Automatic. After film is loaded and the back closed, thefilm advances to frame 1 automatically, taking about 1 sec.Film advance system : Automatic film advance with built-in motor.(1) FOS-lV : Single-frame and continuous shooting.(2) FOS-1V + Power Drive Booster PB-E2 : Single-frame, low-speedcontinuous, high-speed continuous, and ultra-high speed continuous (wINP-F2).Infrared film : Compatible Film rewind system : At the end of the roll, automatic film rewind with a built-in motor. Midroll rewind possible.Film rewind time/noise : High-speed rewind : Approx. 4.5 sec. for 24-ex.him and approx. 8 sec. for 36-ex. film at 59 dB Silent rewind : Approx. 12 sec. for 24-ex. film and approx. 18 sec. for 36-ex. film at 49 dBFilm ID Imprinting (w/standard camera back) Information Imprinted Any number from Ofi to 99 and film No. from 001 to 999 Imprinting position and size Frame 0 on film leader, text height approx. 1 mmImprinting method : After film advances during initial loading, a minilamp imprints a transparent LCD numerals on the film base. (Imprinting cannot be disabled.)Imprinting confirmation.During imprinting, the ID mark lights on the LCDpanel. <p> Ambient temperature : Imprinting assured between 45 C/ill F and -10 C/14 FPower source : Same as for the camera <p> Shooting DataSystem : When a picture is taken, the shooting data is automaticallyrecorded in the built-in memory. The data can be later transferred to a personal computer for viewing and editing. Data recorded <p> The data cannot be viewed or edited with the camera.Shooting data memory rapacity With the standard number of data items,shooting data for 100 rolls of 36-ex. film can be stored. <p> Camera SpecificationsFlash contacts :(1) Hot shoe : X-sync direct contacts(2) Right side bottom : PC terminal (threaded)External flash system compatibility.E-TTL autoflash, A-TTL autoflash,TTL <p> AutoflashCustom Functions : 20 (No.0 - 19)Personal Functions : 3 Custom Function groups can be registered. <p> Remote control : Remote control/data transfer terminal with waterproofand dustproof cap provided. <p> Power source :EOS-1V : One 2CR5 lithium batteryEOS-1V + Power Drive Booster PB-F2 : 8 size-AA batteries or Ni-MH PackNP-F2 (sold separately)Battery Pack BP-F1 : 1 2CR5 lithium battery and 4 size-AA batteries(size-AA lithium batteries cannot be used) <p> Battery check : Automatic when the Main Switch is turned on. Batterylevel displayed in four levels (not including blank display) on LCD panel. <p> Dimensions : EOS-1V : : 161 (W) x 120.8 (H) x 70.8 (D) mm, 6.3 (W) x 4.7(H) x 2.8 (D) in.EOS-1V + PB-F2 : 161 (W) x 164.3 (H) x 82.5 (D) mm, 6.3 (W) x 6.4 (H) x3.2 (D) in.Weight EOS-1V : 945 g I 33 oz (body only, excluding battery)EOS-1V + PB-F2 : 1380 g/48.7 oz (body only, excluding battery)-----EOS-1V Body : US $ 2.600/2800Availbility : APRIL 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_potts1 Posted January 29, 2000 Share Posted January 29, 2000 The one thing that surprised me that someone noted on Deja was that there doesn't appear to be eye focusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt_heintzelman Posted January 30, 2000 Share Posted January 30, 2000 What's a "half mirror"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_ung Posted January 31, 2000 Share Posted January 31, 2000 Apart from 100% pic coverage, it seems the 1V has nothing superior to EOS 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn3 Posted January 31, 2000 Share Posted January 31, 2000 A half mirror is a mirror which reflects some light and transmits some light (not necessarily 50/50, as the name might imply). The main mirror on every EOS AF body is a half mirror; the light which is reflected goes to the viewfinder, while the light which is transmitted is then reflected by a smaller mirror into the AF detectors. <p> From looking at the specs that have been posted again and again and again (and then included, in full, in almost all replies) on rec.photo.equipment.35mm, I'd have to agree - this doesn't look like it's much more advanced than the EOS-3. But you never know if the specs are complete or accurate until they actually come from Canon, and PMA is at the start of February, so we'll all know soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt_heintzelman Posted January 31, 2000 Share Posted January 31, 2000 Not having to pay for ECF that may not work sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt_heintzelman Posted January 31, 2000 Share Posted January 31, 2000 If this early, "leaked" data on the EOS 1v is truly coming from somewhere within Canon "Europa", and if the tentative price of about $2800.00 U.S. dollars is correct, then one is left to ponder what Canon is doing with the extra cost of the 1v compared to the "3". I believe it's now a fairly safe bet that the 1v will not come with ECF, and if it is true that the cost of the EOS 3's ECF was about $400.00 for the consumer compared to if no ECF was on-board, then the numbers might look something like this: 1) EOS 3 with ECF = $1300.00; EOS 1v = $2800.00; difference = $1500.00; 2) "EOS 3-like" camera without ECF = about $900.00 (?); difference compared to EOS 1v at $2800.00 = a $1900.00 difference... What might Canon be doing with the EOS 1v that would so increase the price of this camera over the "3"? I certainly don't know the answer to this question, but I wonder if upgrades to its metering, AFPS systems, and microprocessors might be involved. Will its metering system rival the Nikon F5? I quess we'll all just have to stay tuned to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted January 31, 2000 Share Posted January 31, 2000 The ~$2800 is a "list" price, not a "street" price. I'm not sure what the typical discount is, but I'd guess around 30%. I'd expect an initial "street" price under $2000. I don't think I'll be buying one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_hicks Posted February 1, 2000 Share Posted February 1, 2000 Ok - one A-TTL body outta the way (EOS-1n), what's the fate of the other (EOS-5)? I guess we'll find out soon enough. I'm just looking for an E-TTL body with a tight spotmeter, a grip that will take AA batteries and the same controls as the VG-10 (and hopefully won't cost a small fortune). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_yap Posted February 2, 2000 Share Posted February 2, 2000 Take a look at the new EOS 1 V and the new EF 100 USM Macro at <p> http://www.canon-sales.co.jp/pressrelease/2000-02/pr_eos1v.html http://www.canon-sales.co.jp/Product/camera/eos/ef100usm.html <p> Man if the EOS 1 doesn't get any sexier than it does!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subhasis_laha Posted February 2, 2000 Share Posted February 2, 2000 Check out the following page on Canon Malaysia web-site for detailed English description: http://camera.canon.com.my/what_new/product/EOS1V/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper1 Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Old news is no news but here's the blurb on the EOS 1V from Canon USA anyway, www.usa.canon.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_lehmann Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 945g without battery! Add the PB-F2 and you've got an anchor. The other specs sound nice but that's ridiculous, I won't be buying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey_s._kane2 Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Here's some more info in English: <a href="http://www.canon.com/eos/index2.html">http://www.canon.com/eos/i ndex2.html</a>.<p> It looks like Canon's upped the ante with 10 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_haggerty1 Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Although I'm not a Canon user, I've been waiting to see what Canon's response would be to Nikon's F5 (as has everyone else, I'm sure). While the introduction of the new EOS 1V will bring some badly lacking features to the Canon body lineup (computer link and at least the availability to shoot at a higher frame rate---up to 10 fps, for example), I really feel the whole introduction of this body is rather anticlimatic. Please, here me out... <p> Many of these features that are being made available to Canon users with this body have been available now to Nikon users (via the F5) for over FOUR years now! Canon's only reply by introducing the 1V seems to be just getting the Canon body options up to where Nikon has been. Please be patient with me, I'm not trying to rip on Canon users--you have a LOT of VERY NICE lenses and features available to you. My point is the following: Canon has had over FOUR YEARS to contemplate the Nikon Flagship body--to disect it, test it, find its flaws, find its strong points--and all it has to offer in the 'new' 1V is basically a souped up EOS3 with many badly lacking features that Nikon has already had available as well as a "we now offer the fastest* framing rate camera" (*under certain conditions only) by presenting a framing rate of 10 fps body. In my opinion, Canon has just passed up a prime opportunity to beat Nikon hands down in the line of photographic equiptment. <p> I say that Canon has passed up this opportunity because they haven't implemented major new advances for the photographic world in this new body. I was really hoping to see truely new technology being made available for the photographer to utilize. When the Nikon F5 was released, it DID revolutionize camera bodies, with its speed, AF system, 3D COLOR matrix metering (still no attempt to further or perfect that technology Canon?), computer interface, etc.. Canon, you were foolish to let Nikon live in this case. Your opportunity was ripe and you chose to glide. Perhaps I would have converted at the introduction of a truely revolutionizing body to match your excellent lens lineup. However, Nikon seems to finally be introducing lenses that not only admit that they (Nikon)have been lazy in the lens department, but are making an attempt to further the technology (specifically Image Stabilization in this case) available to photographers--not just following. An example of this can be seen in the fact that Nikon is claiming an additional stop of hand-holdability over the Canon lenses. Nikon seems to truely be following in the lens department--however, at least they are trying to wisely improve upon the innovations that Canon is offering. I can't, with any confidence, say the same regarding Canon in regard to the new 1V body. <p> To date, Canon has only made an attempt to 'one-up' (basically one-feature at a time) Nikon's revolutionizing body. For example, EOS 3's supposed faster and more sure footed autofocus acquisition speed (when limiting the F5's framing rate to the same as the EOS 3's)--as reported by MR. Kwok's comparison article between the two (My question to Mr. Kwok (that he wouldn't post on his review site)--Is the F5 REALLY operating at its full capacity when you purposefully slow down its framing rate--after all, with a higher framing rate, less focus adjustment would need to be made in between frames, so how on earth can you say that the hit rate percentage of the Nikon (NOT operating in optimized conditions) is accurate and claim those victories for Canon?) over the F5? Anyway, my challenge to the Canon Corporation: Introduce something revolutionizing in terms of camera bodies and convince ALL Nikon users to make the switch. Don't think that finally introducing features like a metal body, fast(er?) film advance rate, and a computer linking interface, are revolutionary--their not, their merely reactionary! Canon user's, you have a lot going for you in terms of an overall system but, if I were in your shoes, I'd feel awefully let down. Demand a truely revolutionizing body that will stun ALL photographers--Nikon did it 4 years ago, proving it is possible. Technology has come a long way in the last four years, why hasn't Canon utilized it in their Bodies? Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_schmidt Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Oh my god, Sean, please stay cool and don't start again these endless wars on camera equipment. It is just too ridiculous to calim that Canon is not innovative (eg: quick-control dial, IS, 45 Autofocus points) which were actually copied by Nikon, the first too at least. Of course and hopefully there will always be advantages of both systems (Nikon: better viewfinder, maybe flash, matrix meter) as this keeps up competition and hopefully Canon NEVER introduces a body which will make all Nikon users switch. A ludicrous asumption anyway as tastes vary in people. So please don't get that emotional. Happy shooting with your excellent F5 :-) Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_haggerty1 Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Michael, forgive me if my emotions bled through slightly... ;-) <p> To ALL: I am NOT trying to start another Canon vs. Nikon War: I hope that was clear enough through my complimentary attitude towards the things that Canon has done well. I also do (and did, I thought) acknowledge that Canon is indeed an innovative company. Therein lies my disappointment with the release of this body: The photographic world has waited for over 4 years for the release of this new body and Canon has already proven (as you pointed out Michael) that it is indeed innovative, when it wants to be. My comments relating to technological strategy (implied in my position) are not unfounded but come from an understanding of what it means to lead, follow and be an outsider in terms of technological development and management from the standpoint of business or entreprenuer. <p> My only point was that I, for one, was disappointed to see this opportunity for major technological advancement pass by with such passivity. Oh well, perhaps Nikon will glide as well whenever the F6 is released--we all know that wouldn't be a first! ;-) <p> Take care and don't take my statements as personal attacks--we are all in the same photographic boat together, after all. I really believe that one of the two brands is not better than the other: they just offer different tools for us to use! Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_schmidt Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Hi Sean, I am quite relieved to hear your explanations, probably I have gotten you a bit wrong. As a matter of fact, I also think that Canon could have made a better, a more innovative statement. It seems so, that according to their opinion polls with professionals around the world, they (the pro's) preferred a more "conservative" body. Canon seems to have laid their priority on the development of an even more durable camera and the catch-up with Nikon with this link software and film advance speed. As a user of the EOS3, I really don't see much sense in buying this camera. On the other hand, it has been Canon politics since the EOS5 to test new developments in the higher end consumer bodies and take only the most reliable parts along to the pro bodies. Judging from the sales of the 3 many Canon professionals have probably waited for the pro version of the 3 to be released. Nice though is this new button which serve to save a certain cluster of AF-points and then quickly returns to them. BTW, a really nice, though often overlooked feature of the 3 and the 1V is the new shutter which almost doesn't consume energy during long exposures. Much more interesting for me personally is the new ring-light EX1,4 and the new 100 USM Macro now coming with a dedicated tripod mount. Let's just hope, that Canon caught up a bit with NIkon on the viewfinder, which is for spectacle-wearers still far superior in Nikon. Cheers Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_haggerty1 Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Michael, Thank you for stating for me the design criteria that Canon had established when setting out to design the new 1V. Given that criteria, I believe Canon did an acceptable job of meeting the design objectives (what engineers term to be constraints). Hopefully camera manufacturers will use professionals' input as mere guidance (they probably do already) and not as actual design constraints. The problem with using professionals' input as constraints is that the constraints are usually limited to what the professional has seen already--thus potentially limiting creativity and innovation. I am not certain, but this may be a case of setting constraints too tightly formed around what the professionals requested? What do you think? <p> Also note, I don't think that the EOS 1V is a failure, just not the revolution that I was hoping to see. Regards, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_schmidt Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 Hi Sean, well, I am not so sure about the limited creativity through opinion polls of pros. I just remember the for long years ongoing discussions of german professional nature-photogs about a zoom 200-600mm f/4,5. Of course the industry still hasn't fulfilled this wish/need but many others the pros haven't dreamt yet about (IS, matrix meter). I guess, that Canon will come up in 2 years with a new body (3n??) which will have revolutionary specs like the 3 had in 1999 or was it 98? Lets just get surprised. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted February 3, 2000 Author Share Posted February 3, 2000 I am a Nikon user, so I known I am committing heresy. I think EOS 1V is an entirely adaquate reply to the F5. Sure it may not blow the F5 clean out of the water, but from what I've read, it is certainly a worthy, perhaps threatening, competitor to the F5. Sure, Nikon might be able to tweek the F5 to get 10FPS as well, but Canon has it now. From the sound of it, EOS1V's focus at the very least match F5's in performance and probably exceeds the later in versatility. Sure, Nikon is solid aluminum and EOS1V only has a magnesium shell surrounding a plastic chassis. But find one person who has even anecdotal evidence that the EOS1N wasn't tough enough. It seems to me the much touted color metering is more desirable in theory than practice. No one has shown me any evidence, let alone proof that the 1003 segment matrix color meter produce better exposures in a statistically significant fraction of pictures when compared to my N90s' 8 segment black and white meter. So I don't see how not having the color meter is a disadvantage, except to those who perfers to boast about their camera's features rather than actually use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt_heintzelman Posted February 3, 2000 Share Posted February 3, 2000 We can't really compare this newest EOS flagship body to Nikon or even the EOS 3 based only on press releases, hyperbole, and the like! The proving grounds will be real world shooting experience with this new camera, not in press releases. From what I've read in the past, the main advantage of Nikon's advanced metering system is its ability to frequently "know" when exposure compensation is appropriate (for example, when shooting a black cat in a coal bin, or a polar bear in a snow field). I suspect that the ability of the Nikon cameras to "see" color may not be nearly as useful as its ability to see shades of gray in a very clever manner. After reading most of Canon's press releases on the EOS 1v, I note that Canon is claiming that the improved evaluative metering algorithm is now reliably capable of this, but only experience with this camera will tell if this is true. (Why hell, in my experience Canon's P mode often did a fairly decent job of this, and I've ruined a number of shots by trying to second guess an A2 or 1n in some situations, when using P mode...). In addition, I personally don't recall reading or hearing of the Nikon F5 AF tracking system being superior to higher-end EOS gear, and in fact I seem to recall many accounts of the EOS gear often performing better in this regard. It may well be that Canon engineers and Canon sponsored pro shooters eventually dismissed Nikon's concept of "color" metering in favor of more sophisticated "gray" metering. Unlike the Nikon F5, which offers several redundant manual vs. electronic operating features such as film rewind or advance, Canon continues to design entirely electronic cameras--simply put: no electronic power, no pictures. <p> In summary, I believe it is very unfair for anyone ("Nikonite" or otherwise) to suggest to us "Canonites" that we should feel let-down or somehow robbed, just because the initial PRESS RELEASES of the 1v do not, in aggregate, constitute a point-for-point one-upmanship with respect to the Nikon body. (I believe I possibly detect some panic, insecurity, and "sour grapes" type thinking among at least one Nikonite here...). I believe the EOS 1v will prove to be a stellar camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umd Posted February 4, 2000 Share Posted February 4, 2000 I did not really expect from Canon to work very hard to introduce a camera that would challenge F5; because biggest threat for Canon's market share comes not from F5 but from D1. Canon is probably busy with building a digital SLR with more features and pixels than D1, may be with a truly 35mm CCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo_bizarro1 Posted February 4, 2000 Share Posted February 4, 2000 Just a small contribution to this discussion, from an EOS 1n user's perspective. 1. Thumbs up for Canon for resisting the tentation of introducing a flagship camera overloaded with geezwhiz tech spec that would prove either redundant or useless. 2. You have to admire them to maintain the development philosophy started with the EOS 1 in 1989. Test new technology in the second in line body, and then only transfer the truly useful advances, based on input from a broad base of professional photographers. 3. It is ridiculous to say that they are not innovative. 100 % electronic lens mount, USM, IS, autofocus up to f/8. IMO, much more important than color matrix metering. 4. Thumbs down for the weight of the camera, the 1N is tough enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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