royall_berndt Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 About the girls against the wall. This is a very gossipy, chatty age group. But are they talking to each other? Look at what they are doing. Don't you see the commentary on our times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 LOL! So perfect. I'm not old fashioned, and people can certainly do as they please IF they're not hurting anyone. For the life of me, however, so-called "street" photos which are merely voyeuristic shots of girls' asses don't impart any sort of message, or hold any sort of social import that I can see/read/comprehend/understand. In the above set of photos from our OP, which I am looking at pretty closely (am I obviously missing something here?) I definitely see the humor in the woman fondling the Wall Street bull's testicles although it's not a perfect photo of the scene. The photo of the kid leaning on the shopping cart thing is adorable and true to street photography. (but maybe only to my own perhaps misguided, limited, or uneducated sense of what street photography is or should be) It's a lovely photo. The shot of all the kids lined up against the wall seems about as typical a shot of kids of that age could maybe be. Maybe there's some socially significant thing here that you've presented, or period-specific documentational qualities to the photo? Honestly, tho, a surreptitious, shot-from-the-hip phone pic of a chick's ass in an elevator says nothing. Except possibly, "wow love that ass"? The shot of a group of girls hanging out, comes off as only that and for the life of me, I cannot see anything much beyond just a pic of some girls. SO, @royall_berndt instead of huffing off into a corner to "seek condescension elsewhere"... how about enlightening those of us who "don't get it" as to what exactly, your intentional subtext is, please? To further engage one who criticizes, IMO, better serves to bolster your position, but taking a dismissive stance feels more like a cop out. Also, Not being a big proponent of "street" photography, I subsequently don't hang out in this forum group a lot, other than occasionally posting some documentational pics here & there. You'll of course forgive my not being familiar with your "earlier shots"- the allusion to which I assume indicates your intention to putting everything neatly into context?? I'm coming in 100% cold, man. Splain it all to me. Sell me on these shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 About the girls against the wall. This is a very gossipy, chatty age group. But are they talking to each other? Look at what they are doing. Don't you see the commentary on our times? LOL. If this were about "commentary on our times" instead of girls' a**es, there might be just one photo in your body of work of school age boys doing their thing on the street as well. 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 As for Barry's second shot--the bicycle girl--I will match it with a similar shot taken during the 1980 NYC transit strike. "Voyeuristic? How about the second shot--a record of the same strike . People were struggling to learn bicycling quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 They simply seem like a group of kids waiting... for what I do not pretend to know. One is smiling into her phone, so she's engaged in something funny or enjoyable, the rest just seem bored. The one girl looking at you seems to be caught in mid sentence, but you are clearly partially obscured from their direct view, hence the 1/3 of a body between you & the group. You can try all you want to interject some social significance into this pic but it stands only as a shot you've clearly snuck, of a group of young girls in short shorts. Say what you will, but I've seen, over and over again from you, pix of asses, girls in shorts, and/or women you've shot from behind or surreptitiously from some other angle. You can put any name on it you like, and you can use whatever words you will to pretty it up but IMO it's a lousy and questionable way to entertain oneself. Moreover, this is also your very own internet legacy, your forever fingerprint for all the world to witness: voyeuristic & prurient use of your phone and camera. have a lovely day. Tom You overstate. Only one girl wears shorts. No one in the shot is old enough to look sexy. And no one is showing a butt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 [ATTACH=full]1388369[/ATTACH] An initiation? Is that male or female swinging the paddle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 male or female Why so binary? "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 Because Nature is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Education's purpose is to replace an empty mind with an open one. —Malcolm Forbes "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 “Because Nature is.” What an odd and uninformed opinion! i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 “Because Nature is.” What an odd and uninformed opinion! Male and Female. Deal with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Male and Female. Deal with it. I would say most here “deal with it” in a more honest, mature, and self-aware way than you, manifested in both photos and writing. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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