doug_johnson10 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Such stories he must have! 2 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) Meet dick ... Edited May 6, 2021 by samstevens 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Meet dick ... Mentor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Apparently dick is never very far from an #*%hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Perhaps the subject itself has been "used up" in its history and lineage: Do subjects get "used up" in photography? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Do subjects get "used up" in photography? I think I am...I've written to the admins on how to delete my profile...seems difficult on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 'embrace' you made it your own..... compelling photo sam! i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 'embrace' you made it your own..... compelling photo sam! Thanks. It's actually part of a series I call Appendages. [Embrace has a bit more poetry. Maybe I can name each in the series accordingly.] The first in the series is the one I recently posted in the ongoing headshots thread with the prominent arm. The second is the one above. I'm including the third below. They came at a time I was discovering Japanese photography. My work is a mix of my own desires, needs, challenges, and history of experiences coupled with allowing the influence of art that speaks to me, an internal/external synthesis of sorts. Not far behind ... "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I do sense a more personal touch & story from your series. Makes me want to see them together! i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 I sense repressed, adolescent titillation...doesn't save the rather weak photo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Doug, As i said to you elswhere ".it's easy enough to weed out ego driven critiques... to know a critique that is taking into account your vision [in this case sam's photos] as photographer vs the critique that is more aligned with their work or ego. [or agenda]" i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Doug, As i said to you elswhere ".it's easy enough to weed out ego driven critiques... to know a critique that is taking into account your vision [in this case sam's photos] as photographer vs the critique that is more aligned with their work or ego. [or agenda]" So as long as I agree with you, my opinion is valid? Perhaps it's time for you to give yourself a little less credit. I stand by my comment...it's a weak photo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I sense repressed, adolescent titillation Interesting reaction. I don’t find the photo at all titillating and you’re the first viewer to tell me he sees it that way. It’s always good to have a new and unique response to a photo of mine. Cheers. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Interesting reaction. I don’t find the photo at all titillating and you’re the first viewer to tell me he sees it that way. It’s always good to have a new and unique response to a photo of mine. Cheers. Interesting indeed...did you get to the part where I said "it's a weak photo"? Sam, I have no idea what turns your crank, and don't really care. Other than very pedestrian gay porn, these photos are neither interesting, technically competent, nor indicative of anything other than "adolescent titillation" at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Disingenuous. you ignore the context of where my comment was drawn from and the point of taking the creators vision into account. Of course articulate negative critiques are not invalid. I spoke of that with you before... They can be very helpful. i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Disingenuous. you ignore the context of where my comment was drawn from and the point of taking the creators vision into account. Of course articulate negative critiques are not invalid. I spoke of that with you before... They can be very helpful. How would I know what the creators vision was? Why would I even care what the creators vision was, even if I could figure that out? Photographs are visuals...if the visuals don't convey the message of the photographer, it's the photographers fault. You can read all kinds of things into photographs...that doesn't mean it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Interesting indeed...did you get to the part where I said "it's a weak photo"? I did. Are you trolling for a response to that? I have none. I simply took it in. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 I did. Are you trolling for a response to that? I have none. I simply took it in. It’s always good to have a new and unique response to a photo of mine. Not trolling (are you?), and I doubt my response is new or unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) How would I know what the creators vision was? Why would I even care what the creators vision was, even if I could figure that out? . How.The same way i did.. i read what he wrote. Why. Read your 'if only...' posts.. To give a criique that helps the photographer not that tells them to make it like your work. Edited May 8, 2021 by inoneeye i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) The same way i did.. i read what he wrote. That's why I think the photo is weak...he has to explain what it is...that's a fail as far as I'm concerned. The photo should stand on it's own. If you have to explain what it is, and why that speaks to you, then in my opinion, you've failed. Edited May 8, 2021 by doug_johnson|10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 ? OK. So it seems you knew the answers to the questions you asked me already. i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 ? OK. So it seems you knew the answers to the questions you asked me already. Rhetorical questions...if you know what those are, don't really require a response. I think you and Sam are on a similar photographic level, philosophically, and technically...it doesn't surprise me that you enjoy each others work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Yes doug and i was satirical. Got it... personal and lacking substance. Oh well. I have tried to be genuine in responding to your quest posed in 'if only...' I saw the kind of critique you were complaining about and made an error of judgement to point it out to you. Since it was an unsolicited critique i think it best to step away. i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_johnson10 Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Since it was an unsolicited critique i think it best to step away. I think that is called "passive/aggressive" behavior...another thing you share with Sam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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