jc1305us Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Shot this at Princeton, I asked her for a few minutes to pose. My photo teacher, who I was with, said to ask her to step into the light a bit. I like the results, even though the background is dark, it’s lit enough to know that it is a gothic archway she’s dancing in front of. For a quick shot, with available light, your thoughts? Rolleiflex 2.8f, Kodak Tri-X 400, October, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) It's fine. Perhaps interesting to compare with a higher or lower perspective or framing. I realize you may be below the stage... or maybe not with a waist shot. The lighter part of the archway competes at the intersection of her gaze. Looks like the upper third has some interest but restricted to a phone display, right now - i can't quite make it out. Edited March 14, 2021 by inoneeye 1 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 At my home monitor. The upper section is interesting it enhances your chosen framing. I would prefer that the light area in front of her face were brought down a bit so her face and flowers and hands were the lightest areas. i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcstep Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I love the way that the light is hitting her face and body. As she looks to her right, the light falls off and turns to shadow, which is nice. The dark background sets her off. I'm surprised, why do you question that? I'd crop out some of the dark arches above her. As is, they have almost as much weight as the subject. Still, very nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 As she looks to her right, the light falls off and turns to shadow, which is nice. I don't see it that way. I see the light area directly behind her mouth and chin and down to her arm as a discreet patch of light which is consistent and not falling off. The lighter part of the archway competes at the intersection of her gaze. I agree. On this point, I think you're calling attention to the composition more than the light, in that her eye is right against the strong curved line of the arch, which sets up an unproductive competition. One of the stronger elements of the composition is the alignment of her implied view with the strong line of her arm. The archway being where it is competes with that. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) The dark background sets her off. I'm surprised, why do you question that? I don't question the dark background. I question the light background. and alignment. Sam I walked away before you posted, didn't see your post..... yes composition, also eye sucking tones. Edited March 15, 2021 by inoneeye i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcstep Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I don't question the dark background. I question the light background. and alignment. ... I was speaking to the OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) understand, i did not make the connection it could have gone either way. Edited March 15, 2021 by inoneeye 1 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tholte Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I like the subject, the light and the composition. A really good image like this could, in my opinion, be cropped at least three different ways and be just as good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) Very nice composition and lighting. There is almost a straight line diagonal from the top right of the image to the bottom left caused by the subjects arms, giving the entire photograph exceptional balance. The dim arches on top and in the background add a lot of mood and mystery. The subject seems to be lit only by the light in the background, but if that was the case, she would have been under exposed. In any case, the front lighting is not harsh or offensive. Well done ! Just to be nit picky, I would crop about half an inch(or less) from the top of the image, it seems like empty space to me ? Edited March 26, 2021 by hjoseph7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Very nice composition and lighting. There is almost a straight line diagonal from the top right of the image to the bottom left caused by the subjects arms, giving the entire photograph exceptional balance. The dim arches on top and in the background add a lot of mood and mystery. The subject seems to be lit only by the light in the background, but if that was the case, she would have been under exposed. In any case, the front lighting is not harsh or offensive. Well done ! Just to be nit picky, I would crop about half an inch(or less) from the top of the image, it seems like empty space to me ? Thank you for your thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 I like the subject, the light and the composition. A really good image like this could, in my opinion, be cropped at least three different ways and be just as good. Thank you, I am always trying to find a way to not crop, not sure why, but maybe it’s because I love the square format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I like everything about this photo: the slant of the arms, the curve of the body, the expression on her face, the lighter arch in the background framing the body... everything! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 I like everything about this photo: the slant of the arms, the curve of the body, the expression on her face, the lighter arch in the background framing the body... everything! Quite a complement! Thank you sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I too like the photograph for the reasons Vincent Peri said. The only question I'd ask the OP is what are you trying to show? It seems that it is unsure about how much the focus is on the dancer, and how much is on the background relation. For me, I'd crop it in to take away some of the space above her which to me is superfluous and detracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 I too like the photograph for the reasons Vincent Peri said. The only question I'd ask the OP is what are you trying to show? It seems that it is unsure about how much the focus is on the dancer, and how much is on the background relation. For me, I'd crop it in to take away some of the space above her which to me is superfluous and detracts. Being that Princeton is such a beautiful place, I tried to keep the arches in the frame for aesthetic reasons. It was a quick shot, as we had not planned on the shoot, it was just happenstance that she happened to be there practicing her dancing. If I had more time/equipment, I may have back lot the arches to add more detail, but I’m generally very happy with the resulting shot, as I only started seriously shooting film about 18 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Its really well shot. You did well to let her come into the light and she looks great. If you like the crop as it is, go with it. I just think composition wise, it would be stronger cropping down the top a little. You still see the arch and some of the vaulting but the amount of empty space doesn't function well to me. But that just an opinion. It's a wonderful pic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc1305us Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 Its really well shot. You did well to let her come into the light and she looks great. If you like the crop as it is, go with it. I just think composition wise, it would be stronger cropping down the top a little. You still see the arch and some of the vaulting but the amount of empty space doesn't function well to me. But that just an opinion. It's a wonderful pic. Appreciate it! It was a fun shot, right place at the right time : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Appreciate it! It was a fun shot, right place at the right time : ) I live in So Cal and we get a lot of super contrasty light, but also nicer in the late afternoon. I really learned to love the look when you have a dark background around a subject but when they just step out so the front is in the light and always thought it was effective. So I think that makes your pic pop! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supriyo Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I like the pose, the angle of the shot and the BW processing. However, to me, the light at the end of the archway is distracting and kind of squishing the subject with the background, rather than make her ‘float’ in the front. I feel, the contrast between the closer arches and the distant bright part is a bit more than I would prefer. If there was a more gradual falloff of the light intensity from front to back, it might have made for a more effective use of the background. Some selective dodging/burning may help here, but not too much, since the underexposed part can only be dodged to a limited extent. That’s my opinion so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmac Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) Just did this to compare the distracting bright arch with no bright arch, plus cropping at top and right side. I like the original shot's sharp detail and natural lighting but the dancer occupies only the bottom half of the frame. Some cropping at the top would be beneficial for the composition, then if you prefer square format, cropping on the right side could bring it back to square format. The arches at the top are too dark to be of interest to the viewer. To take a "quick shot" is fine, it's better than getting nothing, but in this case, perhaps taking a little extra time to plan the composition would have been a big improvement IMO Edited April 13, 2021 by kmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_autio Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I'm with Vincent. This is simply a beautiful photo; composition of formatting the dancer, and expression of dancer. Energetic and calming at once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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