nze_christian Posted March 25, 2001 Share Posted March 25, 2001 Hi all <p> Can someone tell me the exact width of the 103 film ? <p> (Not with the spool only the film) <p> regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_paramore Posted March 25, 2001 Share Posted March 25, 2001 Christian: Can you give us a little more info on "103 film"? I have never heard of it. Is it a roll film, and if so, what does it fit? <p> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nze_christian Posted March 26, 2001 Author Share Posted March 26, 2001 the 103 spool fit in special holder like a roll of 4 inch width to give 4*5 images .It was also use on ld camera like Bull eye 4 and Panoram. <p> I asking bergger to make me some film which has the same width as this film but I don't know the precise size. <p> Is it 4 inch or a less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_henderson1 Posted March 26, 2001 Share Posted March 26, 2001 See the web page <ahref="http://members.aol.com/Chuck02178/film.htm">The History of KodakRoll Films</a> by Chuck Baker. <p> Unfortunately, all it has to say was the image size was 4x5, but it isan interesting place to look up that odd film size for the camera youfind in the attic. <p> 103 was made from 1896-1949. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_poulsen1 Posted March 26, 2001 Share Posted March 26, 2001 Divide by 24.4 millimeters/inch. 103/2.54 = 4.055 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_poulsen1 Posted March 26, 2001 Share Posted March 26, 2001 Let's try again! <p> Divide by 25.4 millimeters/inch. 103/25.4 = 4.055 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk_thompson Posted March 26, 2001 Share Posted March 26, 2001 Christian, I checked out Walker Mangum's Kodak Collector's site, and he lists (with Thom Bell's site as the source) 103 film as having a "picture area" as 3 3/4 in. x 4 3/4 in. If you go to this site, it's under the heading "History of Kodak Roll Film". With production dates from 1896-March 1949, it's a safe bet that the original film was nitrate base. I suppose you could check with Film for Classics to see if they stock a substitute, or have any more info. Here this is Mangum's site: http://www.nwmangum.com/Kodak/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk_thompson Posted March 26, 2001 Share Posted March 26, 2001 Hey Christian, I guess I spoke too soon...go to the Film For Classics website. They offer Verichrome Pan in 103 size. It's not cheap though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nze_christian Posted March 27, 2001 Author Share Posted March 27, 2001 In fact my idea is to order a roll of bergger to use it . But I need to give them a precise size. At the same time I haven't any spool so I can't give it. <p> Thanks all for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doremus_scudder1 Posted March 27, 2001 Share Posted March 27, 2001 You could always order a roll from Film Classics, and forward it (or the measurements) to Bergger. That should solve your problem! Regards, ;^D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nze_christian Posted March 27, 2001 Author Share Posted March 27, 2001 Yes doremus, <p> I think about that, And I already contact them to order some roll. but as Bergger hvae a 8 weeks delay. I want to order it as soon as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk_thompson Posted March 27, 2001 Share Posted March 27, 2001 Christian, I think part of the cost (or an addition??) to the Film for Classics stuff, is a deposit on the spool itself. They have varying amounts for the different types of film. I can understand the price of the film given the limited market for this stuff, but I'm just curious about Bergger. Is it any cheaper to get them to custom make the film for you? Unless you have a collection of the spools to begin with. I don't have any experience with Bergger so if they do alot of special order stuff, never mind the question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nze_christian Posted March 27, 2001 Author Share Posted March 27, 2001 in fact Bergger make all special order without tax and limit. They got a price for the square meter and I just have to ask for rool , sheets or what ever the thing I want they to it and from a little pieces to a big one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_buck Posted March 31, 2001 Share Posted March 31, 2001 The last time I spoke with film for classics (RECENTLY) they were *not* selling verichrome 103 anymore. however, i buy 5" aerial plus from them. it ain't cheap either: $20 for a 4' roll. they *might* cut aerial to 103, but i wouldn't count on it. btw, 103 is only about 3-11/16" wide, at least what i bought from them was that wide, and it fit a kodak panorama #4 perfectly, which was designed for that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Just bought three rolls of Verichrome 103 (from 1945-1947), it's 100mm between the flanges. (For the record. Not that anyone will custom-slit film anymore.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Film should be slightly narrower, such that the paper sort-of seals to the spool ends. (Even though a little light usually gets through, and fogs the film edge.) I am not so sure that sites with tables of widths keep this distinction. You should be able to get the film width measuring the space between film guides, though cheaper cameras might not have anything to measure. It is strange, though, that some films are nice inch values, and others nice mm values. As for custom slitting, I once cut down some film on an ordinary paper cutter, with electrical tape to mark the width that I wanted it. (So I could feel it in the dark.) -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Only 20 years too late to be of use to the OP! It's a bit like expecting a modern cycle-shop to have a spare tyre for an 'ordinary' (penny-farthing) bicycle. Or rolling into Kwik-Fit in a model T Ford for a new exhaust system. Eventually, you have to face obsolescence. Edited April 16, 2021 by rodeo_joe|1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Only 20 years too late to be of use to the OP! It's a bit like expecting a modern cycle-shop to have a spare tyre for an 'ordinary' (penny-farthing) bicycle. Or rolling into Kwik-Fit in a model T Ford for a new exhaust system. Eventually, you have to face obsolescence. I suppose so, but the comment I wrote apply to any film size, and any time. It seems that 120 goes back to 1901, so still around after 120 years. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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