dave_gustafson1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I will be purchasing a Voigtlander 58mm manual focus lens and plan to use it on my Nikon N80. I haven't used manual focus lenses in awhile and with my 51 year old eyes, I'm thinking I'll need as much help as I can get. If I find that I'm having trouble getting good results with the N80, are there other Manual Focus Nikon bodies that are known for their viewfinder and what prisms do people find the most helpful.? I don't wear glasses when photographing. I do use +1.50 reading glasses. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The N80 is an autofocus camera so its viewfinder isn't very good for manual focusing. Any Nikon manual focus body would have better viewfinder than the N80. If you prefer the split image focusing aid then get one with it (most Nikon manual focus cameras have that feature standard)h. Also pick a body with higher magnification would help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The F301 or N2000 has one of the nicest finders for manual focus in my experience. It's something of a transitional type, having motorised film advance, but manual rewind. It runs off four widely available AAA batteries and because it's not one of the "classic" bodies, it can often be found quite cheaply. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) All the earlier Pro level Nikon film cameras up through F6 take a variety of focusing screens. These can be of considerable value when the proper screen is matched to the lens and user needs. The older Pro film cameras can be found in good condition at reasonable prices, as can the screens. Edited March 1, 2021 by Sandy Vongries 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I like the f3, F4 and F5 for ease of manual focus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 In Nikon, where I can do so,I use the grid viewfinder since I have done a lot of images with my PC-Nikkor. Here is the screen for the F2 Nikon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilk_inc Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 proper diopter correction will matter more than this or that finder, they're all good... for some of the cameras mentioned here you will need to find diopters, better check in advance (credentials: 53, +1.50 for reading, none for photo ;)) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I will be purchasing a Voigtlander 58mm manual focus lens and plan to use it on my Nikon N80. I haven't used manual focus lenses in awhile and with my 51 year old eyes, I'm thinking I'll need as much help as I can get. If I find that I'm having trouble getting good results with the N80, are there other Manual Focus Nikon bodies that are known for their viewfinder and what prisms do people find the most helpful.? I don't wear glasses when photographing. I do use +1.50 reading glasses. Thanks in advance! If you like, I'll send you an old Nikon Guide to focusing screens as a PDF. I thought I had a few of the eyepiece correction lenses, but have already passed them along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_gustafson1 Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 Thanks everyone! Years ago I had the F3 and loved it. But honestly, I don't remember what kind of prism I had. Back then I just focused and took the picture :) I think I'm leaning toward the FE2 and there are 3 available prisms I could use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I think I'm leaning toward the FE2 and there are 3 available prisms I could use. The prism is fixed on the FE2. Only the focussing screens can be interchanged. It's a fiddly job that has to be done through the lens mount, being very careful not to scratch the mirror. IIRC there are only two basic screen types available from Nikon: K2 (split-image + microprism ring, supplied as standard) and B2 - fresnel + plain ground centre spot. The third, E2, screen is basically a type B with additional distracting grid lines. See this link Neither the E2 nor B2 screen will make manual focus any more precise unless you also fit an eyepiece magnifier. Also, beware buying used screens. These are often not as described, due to a swapped-out screen being replaced in the box of the swapped screen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_gustafson1 Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 Thanks for the info, rodeo_joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chulster Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Neither the E2 nor B2 screen will make manual focus any more precise unless you also fit an eyepiece magnifier. These screens have a coarser ground surface than a laser-etched DSLR screen. Doesn't that make focus "pop" more and thus easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 These screens have a coarser ground surface than a laser-etched DSLR screen. Doesn't that make focus "pop" more and thus easier? Not in my experience. The screen of a DSLR tends to 'twinkle' slightly when in focus and there's fine detail in the subject. The older B screen doesn't. You need a focus magnifier.... but hey, it's film. You can't pixel peep and it barely holds 80 lppmm worth of detail even when 'sharply' focused on a high-contrast subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Helmke Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Jdm I wish you would tell me where I can 2 or three E screens for the F2. Easily my favorite. Rick H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Jdm I wish you would tell me where I can 2 or three E screens for the F2. Easily my favorite. The last one I got was a couple of years ago. I just bought it on eBay, but you do need to take Rodeo Joe's caution to heart. Here is the whole range for F2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Rats, I thought I had a couple of F2 "E" screens lying around. They turned out to be "B" screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chulster Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 If anyone has a spare, unscratched, type-B2 focusing screen for FM2/FE2/FA that they have no use for, I wouldn't mind taking it off your hands. Especially if you're willing to take less than market price for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I wish you would tell me where I can 2 or three E screens for the F2. Easily my favorite. If you get really stuck, you can file the extra tab off an F3 screen and use it in an F2. Also, the screen inserts are easily swapped between F3 and F2 frames. Undo 4 screws and it's done. In fact, if you're going to file down an F3 frame it's best to remove the screen before attacking the frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albins images Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 The F301 or N2000 has one of the nicest finders for manual focus in my experience. It's something of a transitional type, having motorised film advance, but manual rewind. It runs off four widely available AAA batteries and because it's not one of the "classic" bodies, it can often be found quite cheaply. My late-to-chime-in-2-cents contribution here: From the film-years, doing some fashion shows manually focusing in dim lighting, I found that the F801 screen was the most convenient! Which seems in line with the comment above from John Seaman. I preferred that focus screen much above that from the F3/T (even after replacing the matte screen in that one with a brighter alternative. Otherwise a most reliable camera, with terrible TTL flash..) and the F4 (always a bit fuzzy, probably because of the diopter adjustment? ..an with terribly fuzzy film changes.. aargh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Now I think about it. I have 3 FM's, 1 FM2n and an FE. The FM's screen can't be changed and I don't care much about the FE as it's not in good shape. I think I would try to get a screen without the the split image or microprism for the FM2n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heimbrandt Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Why not try the focus confirmation light in the viewfinder? It might be all you need. If not, here is a brief description of some of Nikon’s focusing screens for several of the cameras that featured interchangeable focusing screens: Support Articles Beattie Intenscreen also offered some good third party alternatives, icluding some options that Nikon never offered for certain cameras (split screen for the F/N90 for instance). I am not familiar with how ”old school” the modern Voigtländer is, but remember that the N80 does not meter with AI/AI-S lenses, only AI-P and newer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian1664876441 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 My late-to-chime-in-2-cents contribution here: From the film-years, doing some fashion shows manually focusing in dim lighting, I found that the F801 screen was the most convenient! Which seems in line with the comment above from John Seaman. I preferred that focus screen much above that from the F3/T (even after replacing the matte screen in that one with a brighter alternative. Otherwise a most reliable camera, with terrible TTL flash..) and the F4 (always a bit fuzzy, probably because of the diopter adjustment? ..an with terribly fuzzy film changes.. aargh...) I agree- the N8008s with an E Screen was a favorite for using with a Nikkor-H 300/4.5 and Reflex-Nikkor 500/8. The eye-relief is the same as the F3HP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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