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Lovely colours Mr. Klein, who is that young stud in the first photo? Love the shot of the fence rail. I posted in this thread about missing my RX100 and then made a bad mistake of wasting time going to ebay searching for a mark three or four. So this post ended up costing me £310 for a new RX100 111 , but I couldn't be happier. What a stunning lens! All the best, Charles.

Ah you made my day. Tomorrow's my 76 birthday. In any case, although I don;t like cellphone generally for a regular photo work, I was stuck with only my Galaxy 7 around 2 1/2years ago when I took this series of stills and short video clip assembled with music afterwards to show to my senior group where I live. It was from tour our Men's club went to our local New Jersey Fire Training facility.

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Ah you made my day. Tomorrow's my 76 birthday. In any case, although I don;t like cellphone generally for a regular photo work, I was stuck with only my Galaxy 7 around 2 1/2years ago when I took this series of stills and short video clip assembled with music afterwards to show to my senior group where I live. It was from tour our Men's club went to our local New Jersey Fire Training facility.

Your steadiness is impressive, Alan. If you're not using some kind of stabilization, your shooting skills are truly excellent! In fact, they're excellent even if you are using stabilization of some kind, You underscore that old adage - it ain't what you use, it's how you use it.

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The smart phone camera's are really pretty good. If you like a camera camera, any small up to date pt. and shoot should work. I like the Ricoh but I'm using a few generations old GRD IV. Canon's are popular and hikers and backpackers seem to like the Sony RX 1000 aeries. I hiked and backpacked in the Sierras and used an iPhone 7 and I was quite happy with the pics. The new versions are even better.
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I have been using a succession of waterproof and and shock resistant compact cameras over the past dozen years for snorkeling, kayaking, skiing, hiking, and just walking around. My latest waterproof camera is an Olympus TG4, which takes very good photos and easily fits in a pocket. Although my iPhone 6 takes decent photos, I tend to forget that it has that capability, and rarely use it for photography.
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I have to remind myself to remember that my iphone actually has a camera build-in :( The already mentioned Sony RX-100 cameras have been tempting me for some time - but I cannot bring myself to pull the trigger given their cost. I succumbed once to the notion of having a small, always carry-along camera in form of the Ricoh GR - yet despite it being pocketable, it very often doesn't come along for the ride. Quite some time ago, I owned some small Lumix (at the time highly recommended by a certain Ken Rockwell). Took it as my only camera on a trip to New York City - still regret that decision more than a decade later. Edited by Dieter Schaefer
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Your steadiness is impressive, Alan. If you're not using some kind of stabilization, your shooting skills are truly excellent! In fact, they're excellent even if you are using stabilization of some kind, You underscore that old adage - it ain't what you use, it's how you use it.

Thanks. All video clips are handheld. My stills are even steadier. :)

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Hope you are not going to disappear into oblivion John Fantastic

Hahahahahaha , Thank you Allen Herbert and I am very glad you liked the photos. :)

 

5 Years ago, I was diagnosed with scoliosis and my doctor prohibited from carrying anything heavier that 20 lbs. And my Photography suffered.

I can no longer carry heavy gear specially when travelling to the countryside. My style of photography involves the use of multiple low power off camera flash.

During my DSLR days I usually use Yongnou, with radio transmitters and my trusty DSLR.

 

I have been waiting for an off camera flash for smartphones and it came last year when Innovatronix introduced the CPFlash 550W. So I bought 4 of them as replacements for my Yongnou. Now I can create images that I used to do with my DSLR. I have printed them in A3+ (13"x19") paper and so far I am happy with the resolution of my smartphone. Virtually indistinguishable with my DSLR shots at 13"x19" not unless you pixel peep. more so if your final output is for social media where resolution does not really matter much. Now my photo bag consists of my smartphone and 4 CPFlash 550W and weight less than 10 lbs. and my doctor is very happy.

 

You should try it Allen Herbert, if you have some off camera flash Speedlight's, its not actually hard and using small off camera flashes will add some drama in the image, that a straight camera shot without flashes would not be able to achieve. Its even much easier to achieve with your smartphone .:)

 

Here are some shots I took with my DSLR.

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Canon 1000D 1/60Second , f/4, ISO 800, 17mm lens shot with 4 Yongnou Flash.

 

Here is another photo. When my photography friends saw this picture they jokingly said the title should be "Parade of the Yongnou"

 

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Canon 600D ,1/125 second, f/8, ISO200, 28mm lense shot with 7 Yongnou Flash

 

Now here are some shots I took very recently with my Huawei P30.

 

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Huawei P30 , 1/1600 sec. f/1.6 5.56mm (27mm 35mm equivalent) ISO 200.

 

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Huawei P30, 1/250 sec., f/1.6, 5.56mm (27mm 35mm equivalent), ISO100

 

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Huawei P30 , 1/200 sec., f/1.6, 5.56mm (27mm 35mm equivalent) ISO50

 

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[ATTACH=full]1374576[/ATTACH] Yosemite with iPhone 7 no post processing and yes we had a couple of minutes of rain :)

I’ve been very happy with my trusty old 7 too, using PureShot or 645 Pro for most phone pics. What camera app(s) are you using on yours, Barry?

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Hi there, I haven't been on here for about a decade (life got super busy with kids, and had to put all my photography energy into shooting and my photography business - no time for the web sadly). I missed it. A quick question. What is your light weight go to photography option for when you are wrangling kids or on the run? I love my 5D Mark 1V, but I can't carry it in my handbag to have on hand when I am wrangling my three kids, or put it in my back pocket to use on the run. I bought an iPhone 12 Pro for this purpose, but sadly had it stolen last night, and probably won't get it back (yes find my iPhone worked briefly but police couldn't find it). So now I have to work out whether to buy another 12 Pro (whilst I pay off the other one for three years - eek), or just use an old phone and get a compact mirrorless or good quality point and shoot. What do you use for this purpose - a phone, mirrorless or point and shoot? Obviously as pros we want quality and especially great handling of low light... But also I need something small and portable. Will an actual camera be as handy as a phone? Am I going to use it as much? Will it perhaps be a good chance to stop taking photos on my phone and use something small but more professional? Or is this just not workable for the purpose... Interested in your thoughts, experiences and choices. Thanks for having me back!

So sorry to hear about you being victimized.

 

I bought my girlfriend a Lumix DC-ZS70 last year so she would have better reach and lowlight performance than her Blackberry (so obviously not an iPhone). My thinking when I chose it was I wanted the reach, Raw files, decent video, and some connectivity. Without the connectivity she would probably never use it, and I only use it to video her and her dogs when they are doing Agility or Sheepherding. My biggest issue is that after spending a couple of days learning how to use it before giving it to her for her birthday I have since forgotten how to use it. Sure I can point and shoot, and it doesn't take me long to configure it to share the photos or videos on Facebook, but I'm having a hard time getting clutter off the back LCD screen or being able to quickly make a change to some esoteric setting when she wants that done. She barely uses the Lumix and much prefers her Blackberry unless I'm around to get it up and going for her, and when we went out to watch whales it was less useful than her phone (narrowing the FOV and getting it to focus was far to difficult, and it didn't hold a candle to my D800).

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