royall_berndt Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 The Internet is swarmed by selfies of teen girls in states of undress. What is going on? It has to be more than vanity. Rebellion? Simple hell-raising? Being able to photograph themselves without involving a lab has borne strange fruit indeed. Boys don't seem to be into this except as audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendunton Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Every generation has rebelled in its own way with the technology/fashion/music available. Who are we to complain? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Because so many of the sites we visit are owned and run and viewed by men, titillating pics of women, selfies or otherwise—just look at our own Nudes section—are more available. Plenty of men and boys are taking such selfies. We just don’t have as much access to them. Likely, the number of revealing male selfies is less because women don’t find it as titillating to view men that way. You’ll see plenty on gay male sites because, well, boys will be boys! There’s not one main reason for this phenomenon. There are a host of reasons, some of which you’ve touched upon. “Sleazy” is in the eye, and sometimes mind, of the beholder. 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 I wouldn't describe most of the selfies as sleazy, but an occasional posting deserves the label richly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoneeye Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 " Rebellion? Simple hell-raising? Being able to photograph themselves without involving a lab has borne strange fruit indeed." + to avoid involving a 'sleazy' middle man photographer. 1 i n o n e e y e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Look no further than photo.net. What types of photos get the most looks, likes, comments...skin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 BTW, I didn't even know we have a nudes section. How pure I am. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 ...What types of photos get the most looks, likes, comments...skin. Hmm... I skinned my knee once, but I didn't take a picture of it... http://bayouline.com/o2.gif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I think there is a greater need to be noticed, for young men and women both, exaggerated by current conditions. IMO you don't get noticed for being good. If you have any doubts, look at some of the injuries and misadventures that begin "Hold my beer while I..." Cut from the same bolt of cloth for a different design. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
httpwww.photo.netbarry Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) The Internet is swarmed by selfies of teen girls in states of undress. What is going on? It has to be more than vanity. Rebellion? Simple hell-raising? Being able to photograph themselves without involving a lab has borne strange fruit indeed. Boys don't seem to be into this except as audience. Good question. Has anyone thought to actually ask ladies why they are into this? The answers might be surprising and/or interesting or not. Edited December 7, 2020 by http://www.photo.net/barryfisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I wonder how the "Sleazy semi-undressed male selfie" would have to look, to serve the same ego boosting / self marketing goals as a female one. I suppose it is decades of pinup tradition guiding the young ladies' work? Can "fastfood & sodas gutt in Bejing Bikini" look cute &/ seductive at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I wonder how the "Sleazy semi-undressed male selfie" would have to look, to serve the same ego boosting / self marketing goals as a female one. HERE are some ideas, but don't try this at home! :eek: "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 TY kindly & totally agreed upon getting into such shapes don't try this at home! :eek: So the pools are about 2/3+x of female population vs. how few % of the male one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrell Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think young people (of both sexes) emulate people they admire. Especially pop musicians. This was as true in the 1950's as it is today. What's changed in the past 10 years is the 'music video' culture. And its accessibility (via YouTube) on mobile phones. Just compare the way males and females are portrayed in this 'round-up' of the week's best videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f42hJ3m2ZH0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Internet is swarmed by selfies of teen girls in states of undress. What is going on? Isn't it easy enough to avoid that which you don't wish to see online? Can "fastfood & sodas gutt in Bejing Bikini" look cute &/ seductive at all? I dunno, what're you into? Then again, isn't beauty in the eye of the beholder? BTW, I didn't even know we have a nudes section. How pure I am. Ha. Maybe you need to "get out" more. Dirty up some of that "purity". OTOH, can't be too pure if you're ogling "teen girls in states of undress"! :D " Rebellion? Simple hell-raising? Being able to photograph themselves without involving a lab has borne strange fruit indeed." + to avoid involving a 'sleazy' middle man photographer. Bingo. I've gotten past the whole "let's rent a model to shoot nude" so we can post these pix on f@c3b00k" thing, but it still doesn't sit quite right with me somehow. Can I say this and not come off as a self righteous prick? Because I don't feel like one, nor am I very pure. I do wonder how and when "art photography" came to mean photos of girls and women either nekkid or partly unclothed but then again I guess its the natural extension of "art house" smut? Whoops there I go again, what a self righteous @ssh0le I am. ;-D Time to go wash my mouth out with soap and pour bleach into my eyes, maybe a little self flagellation with a cat-o-nine-tails while Im at it? Can somebody look after my beer & whisky and hold my needle & spoon? Be right back. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Can I say this and not come off as a self righteous prick? Good question. I do wonder how and when "art photography" came to mean photos of girls and women either nekkid or partly unclothed but then again I guess its the natural extension of "art house" smut Nudes, different from “nekkid,” have a rich history in art. Plenty of reading matter and museum exhibits on the subject as well as ways to discern the difference from “art house smut.” maybe a little self flagellation with a cat-o-nine-tails while Im at it? Already done by Mapplethorpe, who dared to push just that envelope, though with a single whip and just his own ... tail! NO LINK PROVIDED. Search for it if you care to. It’s enough to humble even the most self righteous among us ... OR ... add to their woes. :eek::eek::eek: 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Then there's this: Opinion | The Children of Pornhub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Internet is swarmed by selfies of teen girls in states of undress. Where??? Inquiring minds want to know ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfantastic Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 hahahahaha nice conversation. See even a topic on sleazy girls elicit lots of replies. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 sleazy girls Was the topic "sleazy girls"? Or sleazy selfies! Consider the difference. ;) 3 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Where??? Inquiring minds want to know ;) asking for a friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Then there's this: Opinion | The Children of Pornhub jesus, wtf. pornography may never have been 100% harmless, but it's clearly never been more harmful than it is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Good question. And an honest one. I don't try to put myself above others, I'm certainly not perfect. There are things I simply don't care for and if that makes me a self righteous prick, I can live with that. Nudes, different from “nekkid,” have a rich history in art. Plenty of reading matter and museum exhibits on the subject as well as ways to discern the difference from “art house smut.” Of course, however I might argue that damn few artful "nudes" are found in f@c3b00k photo groups, in fact the nudes I ever liked there that may actually be truly artful- were made by women. The "rest", and vast bulk, I find to be mostly very similar and quite boring. No doubt I'm clearly in the minority tho, especially if one goes by the number of "likes" that even the most droll & unimaginative photo gets. But I'm all for art, whether it's "serious" art, just plain fun, or otherwise. Already done by Mapplethorpe, who dared to push just that envelope, though with a single whip and just his own ... tail! NO LINK PROVIDED. Search for it if you care to. It’s enough to humble even the most self righteous among us ... OR ... add to their woes. :eek::eek::eek: :) Robert Mapplethorpe pushed more than one envelope. Thankfully, he is now widely recognized as a 20th century great. This doc, I'd love to see sometime. The biopic mentioned a the bottom of the linked article page, I THINK, is (or may be) out now. I seem to recall somebody pointing it out to me but for the life of me, cannot find the text or message. https://www.ifitshipitshere.com/hbo-documentaries-mapplethorpe-look-at-the-pictures/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 jesus, wtf. pornography may never have been 100% harmless, but it's clearly never been more harmful than it is today. I think this goes way beyond porn. We have to learn how to deal with technology and media not just in terms of going after these companies (the cat may be out of the bag!) but in terms of learning coping skills and teaching and providing guidance to young people in particular. The rampant disinformation (read: lies), the bullying, the sexting, even the drunken high school partying photos that can come back to haunt you, are all different degrees of the same social media issue. We have to figure out how to deal with it, not just in terms of going after the amoral companies whose only motive is profit but in terms of giving ourselves and our kids tools that they can use to avoid dangers. I see the Internet as one of the greatest positive breakthroughs in my lifetime with many horrific dangers that have to be reckoned with, and from many different angles. I’m beginning to think the trade off isn’t worth it but there’s no putting Barbara Eden back in the bottle. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Barbara Eden Remember when her scan tv costume caused a stir! Those were the days. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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