JDMvW Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) This is another tease. It's a project I started several years ago before I, like most social scientists, was broken down by age and sex. I even posted some of these images in NO WORDS, and had intended to shoot with them. I still do, but in the midst of all the other troubles we are facing, it may take a while. Built by Argus of Ann Arbor, MI. You can't beat that for AMERICAN GREATNESS. Some of my best friends are at or from the University of Michigan there. I actually kind of like the early Arguses (there are differences among connoisseurs about the plural form). I have a copy of the Argus A, but the foam that passed for guides in the little gem has hardened and broke into powder when I tried to load film. It's made overall of plastic and tin. This camera and its successors, probably much more so than even the Leicas, were critical to creating a market for 35mm (24x36mm image) film. Argus A After considerable evolution and increases in sophistication in mechanical form, finally came the standard, the VW of 35mm cameras, the Argus C3. It was in production and being sold from 1939 to 1966! It is not exactly ergonomic, but it works, the lens is very decent, and the viewfinder/rangefinder is no worse than most of its contemporaries. It is fondly known as "the brick". Argus C3 One of the factors that helped its longevity was WWII. After the war, many camera-producing countries were in ruins, and it was almost as difficult to get cameras as to get a new 1948 Oldsmobile (my father's first post-war car). Argus had been involved in defense work, of course, but had this camera ready to restart without any of the false starts such as Perfex and all. Popular Photography 1943, December The company also made TLR cameras, and had started to introduce improvements of the C3 even before the war, but the pressures of the seller's market after the war meant they continued many products longer than they might otherwise have done. (My personal first car was a 1946 Chevrolet that was identical to the few 1942 models) The C4 was a non-interchangeable lens (there are fine points here(Geiss), but..) camera that was much more modern looking, at least, than the C3. It was very popular in the 1950s and Argus sold over 300,000 of them (Wiki). Argus C4 There are other variants and cameras made by Argus, but the main-line of the evolution, in my opinion. added interchangeable lenses to create the Argus C-44, here shown with its lenses, made by Steinheil, but branded Cintagon C44 and Steinheil-made lenses Someday, perhaps over the rainbow, I will shoot these and show examples, along with even more gearhead data. Edited November 30, 2020 by JDMvW 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 The reference above to Geiss is to a modification offered for the C4 by that company: Popular Photography 1954, November 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_van_Nooij Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The Cintars and Cintagons certainly are capable lenses and the C-44 I've shot has one of the smoothest shutter releases I've ever had the pleasure to witness. I still need to test my Argus K again after I replaced the light seals under the top cover. One of the rarer Argusses...Arga....Argi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The asked prices in the old add look quite expensive to me. - What was asked for the Leica counterparts at that time? - Thanks for sharing and much fun with your camera! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_thomas8 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I have and still occasionally exercise a C-3 I bought as a junior in high school at the end of 1957. I did a lot of work with that learning photography principles the hard way! There is the Argus Collectors Group that encourages restoring and using the Argus cameras which organizes Argus Day every year. Argus Day began on the first of the month in August 2001 -- Argust 1st! -- and advances one day each year, so in 2021 it will be on Argust 21st. I first caught up with the idea in 2006 and have a bunch of results online. One has to like a camera that can be given a CLA with little more than needle-nosed pliers and a screwdriver. :) The early Argus cameras were made of Bakelite which makers of Argus used in producing radio gear way back when before diversifying into cameras. I've not been there but there is a museum in the original factory building in Ann Arbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 To keep it simple, the plural form of Argus would be Argus cameras like the plural form of computer mouse would be mouse devices. 1 James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) To keep it simple, What's the fun in that??:rolleyes: Where I come from, a common plural for roof is rooves. Like Tolkien (dwarves vs. dwarfs), some of us love to play with language The "correct" plural of octopus, by the way, is octapodes. Edited November 30, 2020 by JDMvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Here's yet another popular Argus argus a-four (Argus was never very consistent with capitals and such-like) (somebody had better stop me, I could go on like this for days....) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The C3 was the 1st 35mm camera I was aware of as a kid, as my father had the one which had belonged to his father in the late 1930s. I still have Kodachrome slides they took in the 1930s-50s, and with a scan and slight touch up, the results match anything on today's market. I inherited it in the early 1990s, tried it out, but it was too clunky so I sold it. Glad to see others still using this camera, and thanks JDM for the memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The C4 was my dream camera back in the day. I have one now and still get a kick out of using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgh Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Not often mentioned in reviews of Argus cameras is the extremely close focusing ability of a few very early ones. The original A had a two position, collapsible lens. One position for 6 feet, the other for infinity. The AF, introduced a year after the A, had a full, scale focusing ring on its collapsible lens. Focus ranged from infinity to 1.25 feet (measured from the front of the camera body). So that'd be 16 inches from the film plane. Few SLR lenses focused quite that close, even 30 years later. The more futuristic styled Argus A3 from about 1940 had this same 1.25 feet to infinity focusing range. But my favorite model from the Argus family is the Argus 21 Markfinder. Introduced about 1948 (mine dates to 1949) it had a screw mount, non-collapsible 50/3.5 triplet lens that focused down to an unmarked 2.1 feet. Not sure if that's where the model name came from. But the real bonus is the viewfinder which is, I believe, the first 35mm camera with a floating frame, several years before the Leica M3 was introduced. The viewfinder was huge compared to all other 35mm cameras of that day. Barnack Leicas and Kodak Retinas had pretty squinty viewfinders by comparison. But Argus never managed to combine the frames with an actual rangefinder. The 21's viewfinder, besides the frames around the edge, has only a + in the middle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 To keep it simple, the plural form of Argus would be Argus cameras..... and not Argi? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 That C-44 looks really cool. I actually have an Argus C-3 I got a few weeks back after a run thru my local F@c3b00k Marketplace. Haven't shot it, not sure its functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The "correct" plural of octopus, by the way, is octapodes. Definition of OCTOPUS The plural of "octopod" is octopods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deary Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Back in 2014, I wrote about the C-3 extensively and about additional lenses that could be used. Argus C3 Package with new found respect, well sort of Dan Deary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in Austin Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Great American story behind the Argus cameras to include an interesting back story regarding International Radio of Ann Arbor, MI. Both were able to carve out niches against better established firms, with products that essentially were "hit them where they ain't" - in this affordable compact radios that fit well with apartment dwellers and in 1933 a $10.00 35mm camera. I'm sure that someone at both the established brands, Ansco and Kodak took notice. Best Regards - Andrew in Austin, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) What was asked for the Leica counterparts at that time? A lot of variation over the years from the 30s to the 60s, but here is a 1947 post-war Leica ad: Popular Photography Remember that these are pre-inflation prices, and must be multipllied by 6 to 10X for 2020 equivalents. Camera prices, at that time, also included a 10% excise tax., almost always in the quoted price. Pre-WWII prices for models G. etc., were over $125 1938 $. Edited December 1, 2020 by JDMvW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCap Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 JDMvW, I enjoyed the write up on Argus. I have a C-4, and was looking for a Geiss modified one. I happened upon a C-44 at an estate sale and was able to negotiate a deal for it. So now I am Argus x 2. I have seen a few Argus C3 Bricks. There was one for sale in an antique store around here, but the price was ridiculously high. Most likely they considered it a decor item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I sold a C4 this past summer. Nice looking and handling camera with a good lens, though unfortunately it takes scarce 30mm threaded accessories. I tried using my Series 5 screw-in filters and hoods with an adapter ring, but they vignetted. Will post some test photos in the weekly thread sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royall_berndt Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I sold a C4 this past summer. Nice looking and handling camera with a good lens, though unfortunately it takes scarce 30mm threaded accessories. I tried using my Series 5 screw-in filters and hoods with an adapter ring, but they vignetted. Will post some test photos in the weekly thread sometime. Good news. There are a number of 30mm filters on eBay now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Good news. There are a number of 30mm filters on eBay now. Thanks, but I won't be needing them myself. :) Didn't want to get into a set of filters and hood just for one camera, and vintage filters are often not in good condition. The other reason I sold the C4 is that I found the front-mounted shutter speed dial easy to nudge out of position. Otherwise, it's a pleasant camera to use. The viewfinder is quite good too, when cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 An Argus (?) you don't see very often, the CR-1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Another oddball, the Argus/Cosina STL1000 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david third Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I had an Argus A in my collection but never used it.My version had an extinction meter on the top plate which I thought was a clear and inexpensive addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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