Mary Doo Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 What matters is quality control. I don't think Nikon would manufacture the D850, Z6 II, 70-200mm/f2.8 S, etc. etc in Thailand if they are unable to maintain the high quality there. No question about it. A long time ago, my early job was working in Hong Kong at the Timex watch company with the factory attached to it. The watch bands were from China, with watch parts from Germany (I think). Even though Timex was not a top-notch brand, the quality control was impressive. The operation was supervised by an engineer from Germany. The temperature-controlled watch-making area was sealed with a heavy door; all workers inside wore smocks and gloves, of course, on precision machines, each specializing in certain part of the assembly. Then there was quality control to ensure the final product met specs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Doo Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Dear friends, Please! I thought I made it clear that there may be reasons beyond prejudice and quality. The subject may not be allowed discussed in this forum, as pointed out by the Moderator, but I wish people would accept the question of “where is it made?” to be asked without automatically assuming it has anything to do with prejudice. Please read what I wrote above if you haven’t already. It's hard to keep track of what is from where because each complicated product contains multiple parts and processes. "Made in X" is only part of the story. Sometimes even the ingredients for each part may come from multiple countries and processed in another. China is the largest supplier of automobile parts, and so many other things. In order for you to adhere to your strong conviction, you may need to spend so much time to research everything about a product. It's up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 I thought I made it clear that there may be reasons beyond prejudice and quality. Unfortunately, your point is moot. Made in whatever country merely means the final assembly is in a certain country. A camera maybe made in Japan or Thailand, but a lot of components may still come from China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam .... and vice versa. Various suppliers in many countries will still take a cut of the profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 If it doesn't work, I'll be asking Nikon.world to fix it... under warranty. Isolationism doesn't work to fix stuff in the Global World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Unfortunately, your point is moot. Made in whatever country merely means the final assembly is in a certain country. A camera maybe made in Japan or Thailand, but a lot of components may still come from China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Vietnam .... and vice versa. Various suppliers in many countries will still take a cut of the profit. My question really what is the label on the camera said. That's all. I don't care how they get to put it there. I asked because someone said he had access to the real camera because it's about what it takes to know. One can't search the web for it. One time I even called B&H and asked and they couldn't tell me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 One time I even called B&H and asked and they couldn't tell me either You mean they couldn't even read the label on the bottom for you? They must have a display/demo Z6 and Z7 kicking around! That's pretty poor customer care....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 You mean they couldn't even read the label on the bottom for you? They must have a display/demo Z6 and Z7 kicking around! That's pretty poor customer care....! Well actually I wouldn't blame B&H. I called and asked if the lens where the lens I wanted to buy was made. The guy said that his demo is made in Japan but if I buy one he wouldn't be sure where it was made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 he wouldn't be sure where it was made Fair enough. Do Nikon make the same item in different countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 . Do Nikon make the same item in different countries? Typically no. Nikon usually only makes a product at one factory, with a few exceptions. See below However, for lens prototypes, they may make the initial prototypes and demo units in Japan (where most of the engineers are) but shift actual production to another country where labor cost is lower. A notable exception is the 105mm/f2.8 AF-S VR macro lens, which was manufactured in Japan during the initial 3 or so years (2006 - 2009 according to Roland Vink's web site) and then production shifted to China from 2010 to now. The FTZ adapter was also made in Japan initially but shifted to Thailand. Nikon Lens Versions and Serial Nos As far as I know, currently Nikon does not manufacture any DSLR or Z mirrorless body in China. Most of them are made in Thailand but some are in Japan. However, the entire Nikon 1 mirrorless production was at a factory in Wuxi, China, not far from Shanghai. That factory was closed down as a Nikon facility several years ago as the Nikon 1 product line was phased out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_b.1 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I want to avoid supporting the economy of countries which grossly violate human rights. Good thinking ! ...So I have to inform you that : -Body Z6ii , is made in Thailanda -Strap for Z6ii ,is made in Bangladesh -Battery, is made in Japan -Charger for Z6ii , is made in China Funny ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Good thinking ! ...So I have to inform you that : -Body Z6ii , is made in Thailanda -Strap for Z6ii ,is made in Bangladesh -Battery, is made in Japan -Charger for Z6ii , is made in China Funny ? I am kind of surprised that the battery is made in Japan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 I am kind of surprised that the battery is made in Japan. I have had quite a few EN-EL15 family batteries, dating all the way back to 2010. All the battery cells are made in Japan, but "further processed in China." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) FWIW, I think any of the countries that make this sort of thing can achieve any quality level that the company decides to hold them to. You may find places that do very high volumes of a thing, say circuit boards, will have the latest equipment and processes and can provide parts you can't get anywhere else (the US for example, where few high tech consumer products are made) regardless of how much you're willing to pay. As for social considerations, it's complicated and outside my expertise. Edited November 24, 2020 by conrad_hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I have had quite a few EN-EL15 family batteries, dating all the way back to 2010. All the battery cells are made in Japan, but "further processed in China." [ATTACH=full]1365833[/ATTACH] I was surprised because my Nikon Df is made in Japan (the only camera you can find out where it's made by looking at the sales literature) but the EN-EL14a battery that came with it has cells made in China and further processed in Indonesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_b.1 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 All the battery cells are made in Japan, but "further processed in China." I will ask my friend if his battery is further processed in China...if that matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I have had my Z6II for about two weeks and it seems just fine, nice to have two card slots, AF appears better but since I am 7 weeks post op from foot surgery, I have not really done a whole bunch with it yet, mostly playing with the new 70-200 2.8 and Z mount 1.4X converter. DJI just did a firmware update to the new Ronin RS2 so it plays nice with the Z6II as well. All good, just waiting on the grip, spare batteries and the Z7II. I'll probably upgrade my second Z6 first or second quarter of next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_b.1 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Yes..it appear that all batteries are "further processed in China". Only the lithium cells are manufactured in Japan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 "further processed in China" Sticking on a holographic label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Doo Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just picked up the Z-mount 70-200 and TC-1.4x today. The former is made in Thailand, and the latter made in China. The TC-2.0 will be available in my local store next week, wonder where it is made. My guess is China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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