raczoliver Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Some bodies have "auto" dial positions, but this means you lose the previous useful setting when you change back - like the auto-ISO/fixed ISO interaction. It may still be the least confusing way of expressing dials with fixed meanings, though. Did you have any opinions on my suggestion of using the front and rear dials (normally used for aperture and shutter) when the mode button is depressed to toggle auto-aperture and auto-shutter respectively, in the same way that holding the ISO button and turning the front dial toggles auto-ISO? I didn't feel strongly about it, but if you like the idea I can document it. Or if you'd really like to turn the dials to one end of their travel to engage "auto" instead, I can document that? I must admit I did not read this thread in its entirety, so I did not catch that suggestion of yours, but it is fairly close to what I was proposing. In lack of a dedicated ISO dial, I suppose it would be the most reasonable solution. And no, I would definitely not like having to turn the dials all the way to the end to enable auto mode. Just a press of a button and one flick of the dial, just like with auto ISO now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Garrard Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 I must admit I did not read this thread in its entirety, so I did not catch that suggestion of yours, but it is fairly close to what I was proposing. In lack of a dedicated ISO dial, I suppose it would be the most reasonable solution. And no, I would definitely not like having to turn the dials all the way to the end to enable auto mode. Just a press of a button and one flick of the dial, just like with auto ISO now. Understandable, by now! Thanks - I'll add a slide later. (It might be incompatible with adding user modes, but I'll leave that for a Nikon engineer to consider. If nothing else, it's no big deal to have more than one interface available.) Unless anyone would like to add other suggestions, I'll try to move us on to a voting phase once I've added this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Any way Andrew, I don't think Nikon would adopt any of your ideas but that doesn't mean you shouldn't make the list. But they don't adopt your list not because they don't think you're a good enough photographer but because you're only one man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I think the list is very long and a shorter list of the most important issues and solutions is more likely to be read. Even if it is good to think of these things when designing a brand new type of product, here they are unlikely to make large changes to the way the cameras are operated because photographers are used to the cameras working in a certain way and changes have to be gradual. For example, the PASM modes are going to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Garrard Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Yes; I hope a list with a number of (anonymised) votes on the entries may fare marginally better than one just coming from me, hence the exercise, but we'll see. For the same reason, I hope having some votes will give Nikon a way to prioritise. I strongly doubt they'll drop everything and do the entire list, and there has to be a balance with the effort required to make a change - but if twenty forum members all decide the same feature is critically important, there's a chance it'll count for something. (Although there might be some evidence in the way 3D tracking is enabled on the Z series that it may still not be enough...) I'm as cynical as everyone else, but my conscience is clearer if I've tried. I'll try to get a poll together later. I'll try something informal that allows more information to be expressed, and if that gets abused in some way I may have to switch to proper polling utilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Garrard Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Right - done. I'll start a new thread to make this obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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