ericphelps Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I'm one of the least modern, though not Luddite, old people around I'm certain. And rarely feel much more than disgust for what passes in much of modern culture as acceptable. All twaddle and substitutes for real value. But today Adorama exceeded it all for intrusive creepy cyber stalking. I noticed here a recent member said they used a Nikon D500 for their exceptional contribution, and not familiar with modern digital cameras I right-clicked on it to be taken to Google to check it out. Once there I must have clicked on Adorama for a quick read about the camera. And not an hour later I received an email from Adorama bleating 'You've got a good eye, we took a 'selfie' of the item you have your eye on - Grab it before it's too late!' This type of skulking tracking is a bit too much..........Creepy, intrusive, oft-putting, and signals an end to any further contact or 'click' with this company. Silly of me I know, since this is the first of this email type I've ever received from a 'check-it-out click', it means that it's a new 'thingy' and all companies will be buying/using this computer code from the amoral caps on backwards energy drinkers that write it, and I can't find anywhere to buy film safely. Why do I say things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 This is a pretty common feature across a variety of industries and has been for some time. Welcome to the wonderful world of internet shopping. There are ways to reduce the phenomenon. If it bothers you, suggest you research and apply available methods. Probably easiest to ignore, delete and move on. Good luck with it! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 the amoral caps on backwards energy drinkers Ugh. I know. It was so much better back in the days when old geezers could look down on long-haired, pot-smoking, bell-bottom wearing hippies. Life can be so very hard. :( "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericphelps Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Ugh. I know. It was so much better back in the days when old geezers could look down on long-haired, pot-smoking, bell-bottom wearing hippies. Life can be so very hard. :( The 'caps on backwards' was a very failed attempt at humor, though I'll stick to detesting most modern infatuations such as f-boo & twatter. My generation is best characterized by sufficient cowardice and distraction to allow even the smallest of human protections in health care, education and financial security to be eroded by the nationalist greedheads, and where now the young are debt saddled forever scraping by on gigs and crap jobs with no benefits or protections. But since this was my first experience in this type of direct ad 'tracking' I don't think I'm over-reacting, and apparently there's no way to avoid it. 4 Why do I say things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've never used Adorama being in the UK, but I get the impression that they are a good honest company with realistic descriptions and prices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 The cost of access to the most readily accessible, most extensive repository of knowledge, good and bad, in human history. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.... Apple’s Logo comes to mind...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've never used Adorama being in the UK, but I get the impression that they are a good honest company with realistic descriptions and prices. They are. I’ve ordered from them a lot and also received good products and service. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericphelps Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 I've never used Adorama being in the UK, but I get the impression that they are a good honest company with realistic descriptions and prices. No disagreement on their quality and prices, I've bought from them frequently. It was just the bald desperate aggressive intrusion of their following my 'clicks' that was so offensive to me. Why do I say things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I do use B&H more, but have always found Adorama to be as good. As my daughter said, "Privacy is so 20th century, Dad!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 This is pretty common in retail. Sites know who you are because you’ve logged in, you’ve agreed to terms of service that let them email you, and they email about products you’ve viewed. If you don’t like it: Don’t stay logged in in web sitesOpt out of marketing emailsUse Adblock and Privacy Badger browser plugins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I like Adorama just fine, but this marketing scheme seems over the top to me. I am not a cyber expert, but one suggestion is don't use Chrome, or don't sign into Google whereby Chrome can pass your information and email address to advertisers. A 1 minute Google search (see, I am as guilty as the next guy in terms of being tracked and monetized by Silicon Valley!) produces a list of browsers which offer better privacy. The 5 Best Web Browsers for Protecting Your Privacy, 2019 Edition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It's a cookie thing, though how they had your email, if you didn't give it to them stumps me. I am used to seeing the ads for something I looked up. You can clear your browsing cookies and that will kill those. I'll bet if Adorama sent you an email saying they would send you that D500 for $5 you wouldn't be upset. What irks me is all the click bait or sites that used to be ok but now have so many ads and popups it is like click bait. I just tried reading an article on Canon Rumours about Canon's In Body Stabilization using my android tablet, it was hard to make heads or tails of the article vs ads and popups and 10 click bait ads at the bottom. I didn't even try to read the article and closed the page. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 It's a cookie thing, though how they had your email, if you didn't give it to them stumps me. I am used to seeing the ads for something I looked up. You can clear your browsing cookies and that will kill those. I'll bet if Adorama sent you an email saying they would send you that D500 for $5 you wouldn't be upset. What irks me is all the click bait or sites that used to be ok but now have so many ads and popups it is like click bait. I just tried reading an article on Canon Rumours about Canon's In Body Stabilization using my android tablet, it was hard to make heads or tails of the article vs ads and popups and 10 click bait ads at the bottom. I didn't even try to read the article and closed the page. They had his email because he gave it to them. Adorama isn’t dumb, they’re not going to violate federal and/or EU law. If you’ve browsed their web site while signed in they’ve given you a cookie and if you’ve consented to marketing email they’ll email you when they see you’ve visited. I’ve had this happen too. The way to stop it, if you want to, is to withdraw consent to marketing emails and/or logout and block cookies. And if you don’t want all those ads, stop using Chrome and Android, and use a different browser with ad blocker. Of course you’re being advertised at - you’ve got a device and software designed to track and log your personal information and make money by showing you ads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Simply another lesson in “ Nothing is Free “....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Simply another lesson in “ Nothing is Free “....... True. And if your articles are more about the ads than the content, nobody is returning to the site. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_gallimore1 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 What gets me about 'targeted marketing' is that, after I buy, say, a new monitor from amazon, I then receive ads and emails for the next few weeks offering me, guess what... a monitor. Umm... I just bought one, I'm not likely to buy another for a good few years... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 What gets me about 'targeted marketing' is that, after I buy, say, a new monitor from amazon, I then receive ads and emails for the next few weeks offering me, guess what... a monitor. Umm... I just bought one, I'm not likely to buy another for a good few years... I've had similar thoughts. I also don't understand telemarketing. Most people I know are so annoyed by it that they vow not to buy whatever's offered in these annoying phone calls. Yet the calls continue to come and ads for monitors continue to come after you've just bought one. What I do know is that market research is a big field and marketers are paid a lot of money by companies who want to make a profit. So, I figure they know more than me and they wouldn't be doing it if it didn't pay off. Exactly how it works, I couldn't tell you. But that it works I think we can be pretty sure or they'd think of something else to do. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Averages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I've never used Adorama being in the UK, but I get the impression that they are a good honest company with realistic descriptions and prices. So I hear, but my personal and only experience with them was very troubling. Sent them two lenses to sell and they quoted me a very reasonable price, for one! The other, more expensive lens "never arrived". Never mind that they were in the same box. I had to talk to two different "managers" before they agreed they screwed up. Quoted me a very unreasonable price for that one. Finally agreed on a decent price. And to top it all of, when the check came in it was a couple of dollars short of the agreed-upon amount. NEVER AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I filled out an order at KEH, simply to see how much a voucher was worth, but never submitted it and I have been hassled to complete the order about 3 times. So it is not unusual, but I agree the Adorama one you describe is a bit over the top. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I suppose when I intentionally go to a site, then I shouldn't be surprised to get ads for whatever I looked up. Though it is still surprising where they come out. But if one doesn't (intentionally) go to a site, then it seems strange, or even wrong. I often enough look up something without actually intending to buy it, such as if I want to mention it in discussion here. But obviously it doesn't know that. My favorite, though, when I was looking for articles about radial transmission lines (that is, the electrical version) and getting ads for transmission (as in cars) repair stores. 1 -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Simply another lesson in “ Nothing is Free “....... I see, a work around may be going into cognitio mode in chrome or other anonymous browsing in another browser, a VPN would also hide your IP to further keep your anonymity. Edited February 10, 2020 by Mark Keefer Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemorrell Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Creepy! Reading point 6 of Adorama's privacy policy, it seems to me that linking website analytics to personal information (e-mail address) is not their policy. Might be worth complaining and seeing how they react. By the sound of it, E-marketing is something they've outsourced. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I got today e-mail from Amazon about carbon monoxide detectors. I looked them up about two years ago, then bought one from Home Depot. Why they e-mail now, I have no idea. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancymiller Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I'm one of the least modern, though not Luddite, old people around I'm certain. And rarely feel much more than disgust for what passes in much of modern culture as acceptable. All twaddle and substitutes for real value. But today Adorama exceeded it all for intrusive creepy cyber stalking. I noticed here a recent member said they used a Nikon D500 for their exceptional contribution, and not familiar with modern digital cameras I right-clicked on it to be taken to Google to check it out. Once there I must have clicked on Adorama for a quick read about the camera. And not an hour later I received an email from Adorama bleating 'You've got a good eye, we took a 'selfie' of the item you have your eye on - Grab it before it's too late!' This type of skulking tracking is a bit too much..........Creepy, intrusive, oft-putting, and signals an end to any further contact or 'click' with this company. Silly of me I know, since this is the first of this email type I've ever received from a 'check-it-out click', it means that it's a new 'thingy' and all companies will be buying/using this computer code from the amoral caps on backwards energy drinkers that write it, and I can't find anywhere to buy film safely. Hi, I was sorry to see your feedback on the experience from our website. I've sent this to our Marketing team for review to help improve on customers' experience in the future. If you have further details to add, please do let me know. Sincerely, Nancy Miller Adorama CS Ambassador nancym@adorama.com 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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