n m Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I am guessing that if you open an average size 35mm camera back when there is a roll in there, you lose the frame behind the lens, the next frame due to a third of it being exposed, and the exposed frame before the current frame which is partially wound onto the right spool. Or, perhaps the total spoiled is four if another on the right spool is partially exposed. I am most in doubt about how lightfast that exposed film wound on the right spool is. Guess what mistake I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jespdj Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 If enough light got in, you've lost all frames on the film that was sticking out of the film container.<p>Some cameras, like the Canon Rebel series, pre-wind the film: when you insert a new film, it unwinds the whole film on to the right spool. When you take photos, it winds the film back into the spool frame by frame. When you accidentally open the back, the frames that you took are saved because they are safely inside the film container. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentdlong Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I lost all of mine, but that probably was because I got P'Oed and ripped the film out of the camera and kicked it across an open field :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 The anti-halation coating on the film (what keeps the light from bouncing off the back of the camera and onto the emusion again) is heavy enough so that one or two wrappings around the take up reel should prevent light from passing through to all of the film. The edges will be burnt but if the take up reel is tight you should only lose a few frames on it. James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winfried_buechsenschuetz1 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 It depends... it happened to me two times. The first time as a school boy on one of my very first roll. IIRC approx. the first half of the roll was still useable. The second time some months ago, when I had finished a film, took the Konica Auto-S out of its hardcase and found the rear door wasn't properly locked - it just sprang up, and I closed it in the same moment. The two last frames were lost. Undeveloped (and un-fixed) film is quite opaque so usually the first part of the roll will not be fogged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constance_cook Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I've never lost more than 3 frames. When I do the idiot thing, it's almost always with a p&s. I seem to have my mind engaged better with my SLRs. Conni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaetano catelli Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 last time i did it (before manual rewind was complete, in my haste to reload to catch the last few minutes of setting sunlight), i lost 6 frames. until last saturday, because i forgot i had switched back from auto rewind camera to manual rewind one used above, while i was taking a few snapshots at the Met, having just seen their amazing exhibit <A HREF="http://www.metmuseum.org/special/French_Daguerreotypes/dawn_more.htm">The Dawn of Photography: French Daguerreotypes, 1839�1855</A>. i haven't gotten results back from Clark Color Labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m._huber Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Not more than 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_. Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I've only done this twice. The first time I went to put in a new roll without realizing thay I had yet to rewind and remove the previous one, I lost about 3-4 frames on that one. The other time was not really accidental, but my film ripped out of the cannister and there ws nothing I could do to save it at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_kennedy1 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 My Maxxum 5 locks the film door when a roll is in the camera and it is a handy feature. I've stupidly tried to open the back a few times and been saved by this feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_tuthill Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 I have lost as few as three and as many as eight. But the frames not considered "lost" were imperfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crowe Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Canon T-90. The film was rewinding, I stupidly thought it was finished, 3 or 4 lost frames. Not as bad as I expected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkpix Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Speaking from actual experience, about 4. Even with high speed film. You need to close it right away again, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnek_jonneksson Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 <p>I out there someone who had this accident with a Leica M camera?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingjazz Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just did this on accident. I'm going to take the roll in today and see the damage. Hopefully the frames that got ruined are the filler ones I took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Worth reviving a 10 year old thread for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 On one of the first rolls I shot with my first SLR, a Canon A-1, I inadvertently opened the back without rewinding. I was in full sun, and don't recall exactly how much I opened it-if I actually saw the film or if I just popped the back and realized my mistake before looking. Whatever the case, I snapped the back shut right away. It was a 24 exposure roll of C-41, and I lost the last 3-4 frames completely, Frames further in had "stripes" somewhere across them, probably only the last ~10 frames on the roll in total had any evidence(and I was really stretching to find issues there). If you sit there with the back open al the way, you'll probably kill the whole roll. If it's quick and you minimize it, in my experience you'll lose some but not the entire roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_gallimore1 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Contax/Kiev or Leica/Zorki/FED/early Zenit: cartridge to cartridge loading with automatic self closing cartridges, lose around 3-4 frames when switching films mid roll, no rewinding required. Oh, it's also really, really hard to open the back accidentally in those cameras, with either one or two keys that have to be flipped, then turned 180 degrees, you can feel the added resistance when turning if there's film in (and you're using the above cartridges). Why did they make it so easy on later cameras? It's one of those things that should have an "are you really sure?" verification and a big lock, not some flimsy little latch that's easy to bump by accident. Leica/Zorki cartridge, Contax/Kiev are similar, but not interchangable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Why did they make it so easy on later cameras? It's one of those things that should have an "are you really sure?" verification and a big lock, not some flimsy little latch that's easy to bump by accident. A lot of pull-up-the-crank Nikons have a secondary lock that you have to slide over to pull it up and then open the back. The EL/EL2, FM and FE series, and F3-F5 have this(the F2 uses a key on the bottom, the F has a key in the same place but the whole back and bottom pull off). Funny enough, the F6 also opens via the rewind crank and does NOT have a lock. Canon put a secondary lock-a button that has to be pushed-on the original F-1 and New F-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I am guessing that if you open an average size 35mm camera back when there is a roll in there, you lose the frame behind the lens, the next frame due to a third of it being exposed, and the exposed frame before the current frame which is partially wound onto the right spool. Or, perhaps the total spoiled is four if another on the right spool is partially exposed. I am most in doubt about how lightfast that exposed film wound on the right spool is. Guess what mistake I made. If I were you I simply send the film out for process. Then I would know exactly what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 A strip of gaffer tape over the rewind side should slow things down sufficiently for thought to kick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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