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If you find one, be sure you understand how the lens, adapter, and image circle interact. Most tilt/shift lenses have extra large projected image circles. If you move the image circle much using an adapter with a standard lens the image can move off the film/sensor, giving severe and asymmetric vignetting.

 

There are several adapters listed at Adorama, but they all appear to adapt full frame lenses to a 4/3 format, hence mitigating the image circle dilemma.

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If you find one, be sure you understand how the lens, adapter, and image circle interact. Most tilt/shift lenses have extra large projected image circles.

 

Yes. Very important.

 

Danielsen -

 

Consider using 135 Format, or larger format lenses. It might be better to first search what T/S adapters fit what Lenses, because getting the adapter to the camera fpor the T/S adapter should be relatively easy.

 

Additionally, FFD, "Flange Focal Distance" is an important factor.

 

In simple terms, you'll need a lens which requires an FFD longer than the OM system's FFD and long enough for the adapter to fit, because this additional distance is taken up by the adapter. If the FFD does not match the Lens then you'll not be able to attain focus across all Subject Distances.

 

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Any T/S adapter will have an appreciable thickness, and therefore add distance between the lens and the image plane. All of which means that you wouldn't be able to retain infinity focus, or any other useful focussing distance.

 

So no. What you're asking for is impossible, but you might be able to source a T/S adapter that accepts medium format lenses.

 

Given the high cost of such adapters, and of T/S lenses in general, your most economical option is probably to find a (relatively) cheap T/S lens and buy a camera body to fit it. One 35mm camera is just as good or bad as the next; they're all basically just a light-tight box containing a shutter.

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. . .

Something like this:

Olympus PEN Tilt Shift

 

That is a SHIFT lens, (not a TILT & SHIFT lens) and it is mentioned in the link that JDMvW supplied (btw 'lens' not 'lense').,

 

The article mentions that this ZUKIO lens was designed for the Olympus "OM" Camera Series, therefore I assume that Zukio 35mm Shift Lens (and also the 24mm Shift lens) would mount directly onto your OM10, and work fine and you will have a SHIFT function, but no Tilt.

 

The adapter between it and the camera is a TILT adapter - and note that the camera is an Olympus PEN EP L2, which is Micro four thirds format and I assume the adapter takes up exactly the extra Flange Focal Distance that is required for ths 4/3rds Format.

 

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. . .But i cant find any that goes from OM mount to OM mount... Is this impossible? . .

 

Possible, but extremely unlikely that you'll find one as an off the shelf item (because such an item is 'useless') and unless your well skilled at fine metalwork, probably quite costly to have one made for you.

 

Additionally, and importantly, as already pointed out "Any T/S adapter will have an appreciable thickness, and therefore add distance between the lens and the image plane. All of which means that you wouldn't be able to retain infinity focus, or any other useful focussing distance." - so there's very little practical use for it, anyway.

 

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Not being rude, but asking the same question of what is possible, a different way, is not really going to change physics.

 

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On the point about 'for creative use' - you might find a tilt like mechanism to provide what you want in the LensBaby "Composer Pro" range of products. I am not sure if they make them in Olympus OM Mount.

 

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As I stated, it was the adapter i was wondering about and not the lens. The lens is indeed made for the old OM serie, and would fit the OM 1 all the way to the OM 10.

If I could afford it I would buy the equipment that was needed to do the job. My lack in knowledge about how this works in a "normal" camera, or how it does not work was why i came here to ask these questions. I am grateful that all of you took your time to answer, and trying to explain it all to me. When thats said, you do not need the infinity focus when doing creative closeups, portraits or shots where your close to your subject.

 

It`s my fault, and that i apologize for. I should have used more time elaborate my needs and uses.

 

Again, thank you som much for all the good answers.

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. . . When thats said, you do not need the infinity focus when doing creative closeups, portraits or shots where your close to your subject.

 

For what you want to do, you might not need "infinity focus", but it is important to note that: depending upon how far an adapter pushes the lens away from the correct Flange Focus Distance, you might not be able to attain focus at “Portrait Distances”; neither might you be able to attain focus at “Close Up” distances.

 

I am reasonable certain that’s what was rodeo joe’s meaning when he wrote “All of which means that you wouldn't be able to retain infinity focus, or any other useful focussing distance.”

 

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Any suggestions to a fairly cheap analog setup, that can use a tilt setup?

 

It’s a bit confusing to me as to whether you want: “Tilt” or “Shift” or “Shift and Tilt" - these are different.

 

In any case, as I have already mentioned above, and to the best of my knowledge the cheapest variant is LensBaby: they make a “LensBaby Spark” and also the “LensBaby Composer Pro”.

 

Both are very basic optics, but, neither is anywhere near the price of a quality T/S Lens.

 

As I also previously mentioned, I don’t know if they make these for OM Mount, my guess is not, but they do make them for Nikon and Canon.

 

Samyang (Rokinon) make a T/S Lens for Canon and Nikon and it is marketed at a lower price than the Canon similar lens.

 

Obviously you’d need a camera: I’d expect there are many Film SLRs for next to nothing nowadays.

 

Possibly, you could remodel the LensBaby’s mount to suit an OM Mount, if you have the skills and the tools, or a technician could possibly do that – but maybe that would cost more than just buying a Canon or Nikon SLR.

 

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By the way, there's no need to apologize: this is a Beginner Forum and it is understood that you might have only a basic understanding of some things - that's why a continuum of conversation will usually get to the hub of what you really want.

 

Yes - outlining exactly what you want to achieve is really helpful to get focused advice.

 

WW

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I am really intrigued with the tilt work that Keith Carter does, and looking at the things he have done really got my head spinning around what else one can do with a tilt setup. So it is really the tilt function that I am most interested in.

 

The best camera i got is without doubt my OM 10 with the OM Zuiko 50mm - 1:1,8 lens. And since I am a poor student and an amateur photograph, I was hoping there was a cheap way to make my setup a tilt setup.

 

I see now that this is most likely not an option, so if I really want to get into, research and play with this kind of stup I have to buy a MF SLR camera setup. Keith uses a Hasselblad and a flexbody, i think. But this would not be an option since its way to expensive.

 

So what I am really looking for is a MF SLR setup whit the possibility to get a adapter or a lens with tilt.

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Mamiya made a SHIFT lens for their 6x7 format. (I don't think any tilt lenses, though).

 

If you reconsider using a 135 Format SLR Film Body, then I do know that Fotodiox make a range of Tilt and Shift Adapters which are used to mount various Medium Format Lenses on Canon EF Mount Cameras. I have used one to mount my old Mamyia Lenses, on my Canon DSLRs. It is solidly built. I think it was about $200 USD about four/five years ago.

 

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i cant find any that goes from OM mount to OM mount

+1 to all of WW's advice. As I tried to explain above, and as touched on by RJ, there remain two main physical issues with your desired approach: First, as per RJ, adding the thickness of any adapter will be similar to adding an extension tube, as for macro work with non-macro lenses. Infinity focus will be lost, while the close focus distance will be reduced. It is uncertain whether or not a "useful" focus range will be maintained. Second, as I tried to explain, the focus circle on standard lenses will typically just cover the film/sensor area. Tilt and/or Shift functions demand a much larger image circle in order to project the image onto the film/sensor with any offsetting adjustment. The Olympus PEN T/S kit you referenced is, as noted, from a FF lens onto a 4/3 sensor, so the effect is analogous to a much larger image circle onto a FF film/sensor. I cannot imagine there is a truly "cheap" or "easy" way to get what you want with the equipment you have. The work you want to emulate is made with very specialized, high-end gear, and it's unreasonable to expect the same can be done on the cheap.

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When a lens is at infinity focus, the glass is nearest to the film than when the lens is at a close focus. (Move your lens in and out from close to infinity to see that such is the case.) A 50mm lens may be 50mm from the film when at infinity focus. If you put, let us say, a 10mm thick adapter between the film and the lens, the lens can only get 60mm close to the film, not the 50mm needed for infinity and infinity focus is lost.

 

A 10mm thick adapter would be like adding a 10mm extension tube; it would be good for close up macro shots but that would be all.

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