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It's one of those shows that very slowly reveals what it wants to about the characters. I agree with your take on the beginning, which is why I gave up at first, but I found the investment worth it once I gave it the time it needed. Not unlike those photos that at first don't give me much but as time moves on, I slowly realize all there is to offer. The narrative progresses and much is held back along the way. That being said, it may simply not be your cup of tea. What you've seen so far is more the tease and setup.

 

Yes, the Mr. Robot character is anything but exuberant, though he can simmer at times. Much more introverted which, when done well, can be so much more interesting than the more exuberant roles. He does ennui really well, and it's always with a subtle edge. That edge grows organically over the course of the show's progression. A great case of that type of role in recent memory is Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain ... that subtle, inward, yet understatedly and incredibly expressive character he adopts. The complete opposite of his Joker role in The Dark Knight. Of course, he won the Academy Award for the Joker but deserved it much more for Brokeback.

 

My only problem with Tony Soprano is that he seemed to have spawned a new tradition in these sorts of series, which even affected Walter White in Breaking Bad and one of my dark series favorites, Dexter. The honor among thieves motif, the morality of the immoral, the family loyalty among killers, the ethics of being a serial murderer. This seems to get repeated a lot. Now, to be clear Tony Soprano was one of the first and still holds as one of the best. Mr. Robot definitely does not fit into that mold. It's more psychological than psychopathic and integrates technology and the mind of computer wizards into that psychological profile. Tony Soprano, conflicted as he is and complex as he is, is very much who he is and we know that. With Mr. Robot, we're never quite sure. There's a lot more paranoia involved in taking the ride with Mr. Robot.

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To get back to sound and photography, I'm just starting to put a show together to open in the spring in my home gallery, which is adjacent to my garage. The garage will be the main entrance and my more esoteric stuff will go there, with a sort of color film noir bent to it. I plan on that space being mostly unfinished as it's a garage and also ambiently dark except for spots directed at the prints. I hope to work with shadows caused by the lighting as people walk through it. I'm considering, though not sure yet, incorporating sound into that part of the show, to make it as immersive an experience as possible. The more traditional stuff will be in the more finished studio which follows the garage. Probably no sound there, other than the chatter of viewers. I'm just starting to think about the background sound and will likely wait til I get a feel for the show hanging and lit before making final decisions.

 

It makes me think of those discussions with people who think photos should "stand on their own." While I've tried to choose a lot of photos that have an individual strength, in a show, especially when putting together different walls or groupings, they also stand on each other. Often the various wholes become bigger than the sum of their parts. And they also stand on their presentation, some with frames, some without, some hung differently from others, different lighting scenarios, etc. My studio is nicely sectioned so I can create little micro-atmospheres even within only about 1000 square feet total. Yet there will be a cohesiveness to the whole show as well. The cool thing about doing shows now and then is how much it affects and inspires new thinking in terms of moving forward with photography.

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Music stings of waves their variations lends themselves to different interpretations of sound.. Quarks, the smallest known particles of matter made from individual strings which can vary depending on mass, causing the way the strings vibrate and to different interpretation.

 

Multi universes playing different strings.

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Music stings of waves their variations lends themselves to different interpretations of sound.. Quarks, the smallest known particles of matter made from individual strings which can vary depending on mass, causing the way the strings vibrate and to different interpretation.

 

Multi universes playing different strings.

 

Hmm... string theory is

scientific baloney...

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"Scientific Baloney" Vincent

 

Most Mathematicians do not caste aside any Scientific research as Baloney only religious fundamentalists would do that. It is correct to say that as we discuss there no empirical evidence and it is just speculative. Mathematically it is fascinating and think... the mathematics' is the forerunner of the Physics.

 

Basically the string theory believes the whole universe is made of pulsating vibrating, pulsating energy. Nature abhors a vacuum.

 

It is a mind boggling theory but has a fundamental bases in mathematics.

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"Scientific Baloney" Vincent

 

Most Mathematicians do not caste aside any Scientific research as Baloney only religious fundamentalists would do that. It is correct to say that as we discuss there no empirical evidence and it is just speculative. Mathematically it is fascinating and think... the mathematics' is the forerunner of the Physics.

 

Basically the string theory believes the whole universe is made of pulsating vibrating, pulsating energy. Nature abhors a vacuum.

 

It is a mind boggling theory but has a fundamental bases in mathematics.

 

No it doesn't...

 

Why String Theory Is Still Not Even Wrong

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Speaking of strings, I posted this last week to Monochrome Monday, and it seems relevant here. I love what happened with the stringlike blur in this slow shutter speed photo taken at the Chapel of the Chimes, a columbarium in Oakland that, once a year, invites musicians from around the bay area to play throughout its hallways and chambers.

 

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At our class reunion we ran a slideshow of high school photos with the music of the day. The two complimented one another nicely.

As David suggested Music can take you back to another place and time, completely change your state of mind, just as the photographs do.

 

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At our class reunion we ran a slideshow of high school photos with the music of the day. The two complimented one another nicely.

As David suggested Music can take you back to another place and time, completely change your state of mind, just as the photographs do.

 

Yes, music makes it better.

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At our class reunion we ran a slideshow of high school photos with the music of the day. The two complimented one another nicely.

As David suggested Music can take you back to another place and time, completely change your state of mind, just as the photographs do.

 

So good. I like George Strait also. I love country music.

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How long can you stretch a photograph in order to convey within it a song or piece of music?

For me the test would be not slowly revealing a photo to a given piece of music but standing before a photo in silence for a period of time hearing the music IT produces.

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Well, the reason for me for picking THAT photo with THAT song wasn't to slowly reveal a photo to a given piece of music but because when I was looking at the photo that I ended up with (or "standing before it") I was reminded by the strange "she's got such long fingers" line from the song I then paired it with. The mannequin doll has long fingers and the expression in the face is one of a stilted longing in her inability to even communicate a wish for communication towards the speaker, the theme of the song. There are more layers to it but I'll leave those unspoken.

I didn't realize it was your photo or a video you'd put together.

 

In any case, associations of photos with songs are, indeed, ubiquitous and often inspiring, and they often have literal interpretations such as you offer.

 

On the other hand, I've been wanting to explore the associations between music and photography that are less about pairings, or this song with this photo or slideshow, and more about how the qualities of music, and even particular genres of music, can inspire photos I make and how photos I view can be appreciated through their musical qualities, such as rhythm, harmony, discord, texture, crescendo, ...

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Something I noticed while watching the video is that it could have been stopped at various points and the resulting portion of photo on the screen at various times made for an interesting new image, especially as her face disappeared and just her eyes and the buildings were left, also about a minute in when her hands and knees are in an interesting balance.

 

Music can’t similarly be stopped and held like that any given point, which makes it so different from photography and also an interesting companion to it.

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For something to be literally interpreted it must be universally communicated first, something music, in particular, excels at. The literal interpretation is the cart, not the horse.

I don’t know what universal communication is.

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For something to be literally interpreted it must be universally communicated first, something music, in particular, excels at. The literal interpretation is the cart, not the horse.

What i’m Saying is I have no idea what you’re saying here.

 

I guess I should add I don’t sense or feel what you’re saying either.

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Well, we're talking now and, when talking, it helps to make sense and, if someone doesn't understand what you mean by a term, to try and define that term. I think I can literally interpret something without universally communicating it first, according to my own simple definitions of those terms. According to you, this cannot be done. I'm asking you to explain that. If you can't or don't want to, that's fine. We can easily leave it alone.
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In other words, I got your literal connection of the long fingers in the photo and the song and the "long"ing as well. I didn't know what you meant to add by talking about universal communication. I didn't have to even hear the song in question or see the photo in question to understand the literal connection you were making. Edited by The Shadow
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