michaellinder Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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michaellinder Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Sanford, JDM, what about your images to you consider abstract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Misread it again, assumed is was the No Words forum. As far as an abstract goes, I think mine is nearly as abstract as yours...:) (my first ever use of the smiley face). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 There’s always something new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 As far as an abstract goes, I think mine is nearly as abstract as yours Sanford, I'm quite interested in your reasons for thinking that yours is nearly as abstract as mine. Are you saying that it's a matter of degree? If so, I'm inclined to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 IMO, there’s little comparison between the abstractness of Michael’s photo and the lack of abstractness of Sanford’s. While Michael’s probably would not fit a purist definition of abstract, it’s clear how it could be chosen to be in an abstract forum. Sanford’s already said he mistakenly placed it here and that’s a position I’d stick with. There are abstract elements in Sanford’s photo, as there are in any photo ever made, but that doesn’t make it abstract, or even close. 1 There’s always something new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Here's another image based on my OP. Sanford, how would you compare this one with yours? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Michaelinder, I can clearly understand the content of both photos. They are both impressionist representations of real life. Its been said that all black and white photography is "abstract". The bottom line, I stuck my photo in the wrong forum and am struggling to justify my error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Michaelinder, I can clearly understand the content of both photos. They are both impressionist representations of real life. Its been said that all black and white photography is "abstract". The bottom line, I stuck my photo in the wrong forum and am struggling to justify my error. I appreciate your "confession." No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I think its a more abstract than the first one because I can't tell whats real and whats reflections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JDMvW Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 mea culpa, mea maxima culpa I entered from New Posts and lost track of where I was Is this up to the rigorous forum standards? Hughes Memorial Tower 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonjb Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Very little of what is posted in this forum is abstract, which is okay by me. This is photo-net, it's not meant to be taken seriously. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shadow Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Here's another image based on my OP Michael, when I looked at your second version too quickly the first time, I thought it was a big improvement and did seem not only more abstract but like a more interesting photo. Looking just now a little more carefully, I see it was just sliced apart and pasted up and it became much less interesting because the cut and paste is so obvious and not refined. What if you attempted to harmonize it a bit more. It would still feel piecemeal and like a puzzle but could feel a little more organic. I can't say for sure what would work, but I'd play around with trying to align the two vertical black strips on the photo in the background with the two similar (but different) vertical black strips in the foreground section. Then at the left part of that foreground section, I might try to match the curve of the wall behind it. I might also try some blending in places. It could still look like a collage, which is fine, but there would be a less cut-throat approach to the cutting and pasting that might make the whole work a lot better. There’s always something new under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Michael, when I looked at your second version too quickly the first time, I thought it was a big improvement and did seem not only more abstract but like a more interesting photo. Looking just now a little more carefully, I see it was just sliced apart and pasted up and it became much less interesting because the cut and paste is so obvious and not refined. What if you attempted to harmonize it a bit more. It would still feel piecemeal and like a puzzle but could feel a little more organic. I can't say for sure what would work, but I'd play around with trying to align the two vertical black strips on the photo in the background with the two similar (but different) vertical black strips in the foreground section. Then at the left part of that foreground section, I might try to match the curve of the wall behind it. I might also try some blending in places. It could still look like a collage, which is fine, but there would be a less cut-throat approach to the cutting and pasting that might make the whole work a lot better. I'm guessing that my postprocessing skills are not nearly as extensive as yours. So, I'm not sure that I presently would be able to do what you suggested. However, I'm grateful for the time you took to provide very helpful suggestions. And, by the way, I fully understand and agree with your observations about my image looking just like it was cut and pasted. Thanks so much. michael PS I would love to see your work. Since I didn't find any on your portfolio, can you you please steer me to another where perhaps your work can be viewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Very little of what is posted in this forum is abstract Gordon, I would appreciate your reasons for making the above statement. What criteria must be met, in your opinion, for an image to be abstract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Would this image meet your criteria? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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