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So, what about the M 8


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Visible with the M8:<p>

 

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color Infrared using the M8:<p>

 

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I use Orange and Red filters, as you might with IR Ektachrome. Wrote my own raw processor. But it is unique, block the Blue light from the Blue channel, it gets only IR. Equalize it with the other channels, now mostly visible- get false color IR<p>

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<p>John, I mentioned 10 x 15 as a conservative higher print size. Your 20 x 30 inch prints are no doubt fine if viewed at a reasonable distance. There are also ways to extrapolate digital files to allow reasonable larger prints. The distinctions regarding maximum size can also take into account fine tone delineations as well as sharpness, much like when we compared 16 x 20 35mm film prints with those from a MF camera or small LF camera. Brian, I will check the M8RAW2DNG procedure. Thanks. </p>
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<p>;<a href="/photodb/user?user_id=248912">Soeren Engelbrecht</a></p>

<p>Lovely photos both technically and creative...thank you for sharing and showing what you... and the camera are capable of.</p>

<p>I have never had a problem with my M8 and I understand that only a certain batch had issues with their screens.</p>

<p>My M8 is set to the way I like it; if the screen failed those functions would still work with those settings. Bottom line an M is about personal enjoyment of that camera.....there are a lot more functional cameras on the market and in many ways better...</p>

<p>Love the Fuji Pro 1 bought mine for 300 gbp even cheaper now. It is in many ways a better camera...</p>

<p>But...</p>

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<p>Im all for the photograph and the capabilities of the tool to achieve it..love my iPhone.</p>

<p>However, I respect fine engineering; the use of such old fashion materials such as brass for top plates/bottom plate...hand built even if in a production line...no robots. Just nice feel to it all. Its own Art...a step back in time.</p>

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<p>Hope your grandfather's lenses don't have goggles. Mounting 35 mm and 50 DR lenses are not recommended from the M8 to the newest Type 262.<br>

M8 is very good for black and white because of its IR sensitivity. It can also do IR hand held.<br>

Get the newer M8.2.<br>

Forget about the M9 because of its sensor mold growth problems.</p>

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<p>Agreed with James upon goggles. - I'd just recommend getting a viewfinder magnifier for anything using the 50mm frame line or narrower.<br>

Why are sensor mold & coffee stain problems? - Leica promised to fix the first for free and the 2nd has no impact on shootability of the camera and in case the display dies, Leica promised to offer a trade in upgrade at a good price. Both offers to camera owners, not just to Leica customers. The issues might be annoying if they ruin a trip, but are quite cost neutral. I'd worry more about shutter durability on the original M8 or about RF misalignment after the camera takes some impact. </p>

 

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  • 2 years later...

I had one and sold it after a few years, and have thought of getting one again, but for as old they are, they're a bit pricey. Seems like some dealers in Japan hoard certain cameras and the M8 appears to be one of them, so prices may be high in part because of that.

 

If I ran across a good deal on one, I might pick it up. I had an M9 and now M240 for the past several years, but I swear for b&w those two cameras are not as good as my M8 was for making b&w photos. The M8's strength for b&w has been noted frequently elsewhere on the web. Color is fine, though generally not as spot on as the M9 or later Leica digitals. If you're shooting color though, definitely use an IR filter on the lens.

 

10MP is fine, and the sensor size lends itself to plentiful depth of field. As others have said, images are best up to ISO 320, usually fine at 640, but begin to get sketchy shooting any higher.

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In addition to the Summicron 50/2 DR, the early 21 MM Biogon extends deeply into the body, and won't work either. Bummer! I had to by another Summicron 50 (v2) for my M9. The M8 used a very light IR filter (0.8 mm), which helped sharpness in the corners for lenses 50 mm and shorter, but rendered shadows poorly outside and inside. Leica eventually admitted to the problems, and recommended (perhaps supplied) hot-mirror filters to rectify the problem. The filter thickness was increased to 1.2 mm for the M9 and subsequent cameras, with some loss of sharpness in the corners.
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I'd go for the M9 though a Fuji X camera with an adopter will take all of your Leica lenses with a 1.3 crop factor like the M8. Its not true that wide angle photography is out the door with that crop factor. You just need a wider lens. My Fuji works wonderfully with the Leica lenses, if I want to go manual focus and the pics are great.
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I'm a little late getting into this conversation, but here's my 2 cents ...

 

When you add up the issues with the M8 (cropped sensor, IR-Cut filters, 10MP sensor), it almost killed my love for the Leica M system. And you really should have your lenses 6-bit coded (DAG has a 3rd-party source for about $100 per flange). Plus, the M8 is picky about SD cards; the M8 will not accept many brands and sizes.

 

In your situation, I'd either hold out for a FF digital M (if you opt for an M9 make sure it has the replaced sensor) or consider a Sony (FF) R series camera w/ an M adapter.

When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...

– Yogi Berra

 

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"Any comments on the camera or on usage with the lenses I have with an M 8 will be appreciated" Sandy..

 

"but I swear for b&w those two cameras are not as good as my M8 was for making b&w photos. The M8's strength for b&w has been noted frequently elsewhere on the web "Ray.

 

Ray, a long time user of Leica cameras I would suspect he knows what he is talking about.

 

Sandy ,if you want a M8, go for it...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFtQPgHyek

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<p>If 10 MP is sufficient for your needs (say, up to 10 x 15 inch prints) and you can accept a 1.33 X crop factor (the 35mm becomes a 50mm field of view, etc.), then the M8, if in good condition (including clean sensor and monitor), can be a very good purchase. Leicas, as you know, are bought for their manner of use and handling qualities (as well as high quality), so that may override any resolution limitation. It is one of few non-modified cameras that can do fairly convincing IR B&W photography. UV-IR blocking filters may be needed for your lenses (mainly 39mm filters?) in some limited cases of color use in order to eliminate chromatic distortion (e.g., some blacks becoming purple).</p>

 

I have an M9 but still keep my M8 because of its IR capability. IR photography handheld! With a clear viewfinder and no super dark view having to see though the filter.

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