frans_waterlander Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 You just need to tell us what you want to hear Very simple: I want to understand what is causing the color shift (or did I mention that already umpteen times?). You don't know, but are too stubborn to admit it. Instead of trying to help you constantly hurl insult at me. My patience is wearing pretty thin and the moderators of this forum are apparently AWOL. Oh well. Let's see if you are able to converse in a rational and friendly manner and if not, Good For You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Very simple: I want to understand what is causing the color shift (or did I mention that already umpteen times?). You were told umpteen times. It's a software bug. OK? It doesn't affect everyone (as not a single person as yet on either forum you've posted has told you they've seen it). But it's a software bug. Computers run on software. Software can have bugs. Software bugs can be intermittent. Over and out now or you need the code base, of which neither of us would understand, from every possible software product you run on your computer, to 'prove' if I can be so kind, you've got a 'color shift' you cannot measure. Go out and try making an image with your camera. Or is the agenda to continue all this CWOBaT (colossal waste of bandwidth and time) vortex seen here and on LuLa over the years? PLEASE don't answer, it's a rhetorical question who's answer is to some of us, obvious. Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) frans_waterlander, Tuesday at 4:16 PM: Enough is enough. Over and out. Apparently not. Indeed. Edited August 10, 2018 by digitaldog Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 Let's see if you are able to converse in a rational and friendly manner and if not, Good For You. Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 Let me stress once more: as soon as you are willing to converse in a rational, friendly and constructive manner we can talk and communicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Let me stress once more: as soon as you are willing to converse in a rational, friendly and constructive manner we can talk and communicate. Translation: constructive and friendly and rational is telling you what you want to hear, not what is true. I’ve understood that and stated that was your desire from my second post. After of course answering your question. I refuse to lie to members here just to aid your posting agenda. Let me stress that once more. Over and out now as you promised? Probably not....... Edited August 10, 2018 by digitaldog Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The only way to deal with those suffering Dunning–Kruger effect! and to end all this madness. After downloading the latest version of NEC SpectraViewII a couple of days ago, I noticed a color mismatch between my prints and monitor. Nothing else (lighting, PS version, monitor, sensor, computer, operating system, printer, drivers, paper, ink, etc.) has changed. After a lot of calibrating and verifying I increased the calibration color temp from 5200K to 5500K, to restore a near-perfect monitor-to-print match. So, SpectraView software seems to be inconsistent between versions. Anyone else run into this problem or know what else may have caused this shift? Yes, YES, you're right, I see the same issue. Over and out. Done, good by. So long, adiós. :p Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The only way to deal with those suffering Dunning–Kruger effect! and to end all this madness. Yes, YES, you're right, I see the same issue. Over and out. Done, good by. So long, adiós. :p Hmm... is this finally over...? Really...? http://bayouline.com/o2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Update: I downloaded the newer version because the old one suddenly stopped recognizing my NEC sensor. NEC level 2 support advised me to download the newer version and that is when I noticed the color shift. When I download the old version it recognizes my sensor right away, but after some time it no longer does. So much for using the older version, although I never accepted that as a "solution" without really understanding why the color shift happens. So much for "solutions". Bottom line: I still don't understand the color shift and apparently nobody else on this and the LuLa forum does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 The fact that restoring an older version of SpectraView "solves" the problem is not proof that the new version has bugs. Programs evolve, and are often incompatible with older preferences templates and other auxiliary files. Sometimes they're compatible, but don't know where to look for these files. In that case, you can copy or move files to the correct location. You can contact the manufacturer, but don't expect much support for a free program. Sometimes the manufacturer sponsors a user forum, and/or a FAQ page, which can be very helpful. PNEt can be very helpful, but matters concerning color and calibration tend to be hijacked in a very unhelpful manner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 matters concerning color and calibration tend to be hijacked in a very unhelpful manner You are so right about that. So far, nobody seems to understand why the issue I described happens, but I keep working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 PNEt can be very helpful, but matters concerning color and calibration tend to be hijacked in a very unhelpful manner. Very true Ed. Because the reason there's so much ignorance on the subject of color management, is that those who have it are so eager to regularly share it! Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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