other favorite films for stand development

I know now that Rolleipan 25 works great in Rodinal for stand development, but I only have a few rolls left. Any favorite films that any of you have had success with in stand development? I think I read somewhere that slower, or at least fine grained films seem to do well with this technique. In particular I'm interested in how Ilford Pan F+ might do. I still have some bulk Panatomic-X (1982) that I might try a roll or two from it. And one roll of TMAX 100. Don't have any clue as to whether or not Kentmere 100, Ilford FP4+, or Eastman 5222 would do well. I mention them because I have bulk rolls of those three. Also, if you have images of your efforts, please post.

I've not attempted stand/semi-stand on the three films you've mentioned but I've been quite pleased with semi-stand on Arista Edu Ultra 400 in both 135 and 120 format. I use 3-4 ml of either HC-110 or Rodinal in 500 ml of water for this film depending on the scene contrast. After the initial agitation, I do two gentle inversions at 2, 6, 14, 30 minutes and dump at the end of 60th minute. I use Patterson tank and the start temperature is 19-20 C. I presoak film for about 5 minutes in tap water at 19-20 C. Fix, wash and dry normally.

Mike it is just a matter of Time. . . the time needed to tinker with whatever film you want to use. My works have shown that if the film is on the contrasty side with your "average" developer, it is a good candidate for stand developing. Your choice of brew. Bill

Thanks, Bill and Raghu. I will probably use the time from the Rolleipan 25 as a starting time for other films that I wish to try. I will post results from my tests.

Stay tuned Mike. I just ran the 1st roll of the Kodak so2238 thru a new Zorki & did a 60min SS stand development in 3ml / 450 ml of Rodinal. Looks good on the 25asa exposures & will scan tomorrow am. Weird film, with a yellow tint to the Estar base, almost like old Kodacolor negs. Bill

First results for the Kodak so2238 are posted in the B/W forum. Yes, I did use a Rodinol SS development!, but will be going back to the "dark side" on further work. Bill

I'm relatively new here... did film for many years. Now doing more digital but getting back to film after a hiatus. The term "stand/semi-stand development" is new to me, just what is that? Let me guess... you load the tank but let it stand on the table. Maybe you agitate with a stirring rod but let the tank stand. Am I close?

 

I tried searching but I haven't caught on to the search feature here. I'm behind on that too!

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

Paul, stand development, as the name suggests, is a technique whereby the film is developed (usually for a lengthy time) without agitation. I.e. left to stand. This supposedly improves acutance or sharpness by encouraging an edge effect. The necessary low-temperature or dilute development may also have a compensating effect and reduce highlight density while retaining shadow detail.

 

Personally, I'm usually too impatient to see the results to bother with such a fiddle. And it's all a bit hit-or-miss for my liking.

Thanks, rodeo_joe, for the quick response. I think I'll pass on that technique... but helpful to know what the term means.

 

Another newbie question:

 

Is this forum focused more on traditional darkroom photography, with perhaps some posts on what I would call hybrid photography? Whereas the Digital Darkroom focuses, as the name implies, on strictly digital photography? Lately I've been making b/w prints from either a color digital photo converted to b/w or a scanned b/w negative. My Epson printer has been reconfigured to b/w only, using various dilutions of carbon ink loaded in refillable cartridges. I learned most about this technique from Paul Roark and others over in the Yahoo! groups on b/w printing and QTR. But lately traffic is kind of slow and am looking for something over here on photo.net. For another example, where would I go for questions on "camera scanning" (as differentiated from using a dedicated scanner).

 

I can see where, depending on my question, I may end up active in both forums. Or maybe there's a third forum I should look at.

 

Maybe I'm guilty of thread drift! I'd be happy to post that question elsewhere... if so, where would you suggest?

by "that question", I mean my last question... which forums should I frequent for carbon ink printing? The "stand development" question has been answered.

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Personally, I'm usually too impatient to see the results to bother with such a fiddle. And it's all a bit hit-or-miss for my liking.

 

Stand development is related to compensated development, in that both try to bring up the shadows, without overdoing the highlights.

 

I have been using Diafine, a popular compensating developer, since not long after my grandfather told me about it 50 years ago.

(That is, when I was ten years old.)

 

It is only much more recently, in these forums, that I learned about stand.

 

Diafine is good for the impatient. It uses two baths (A and B), where the film goes in A for 3 minutes, pour it out, then B for 3 minutes. Longer than 3 minutes is fine, and for reasonable times has no effect. Temperatures between about 70F and 85F also don't change much.

 

The quick explanation is that A has the developing agent, and B the activator (base), such that actual development happens in B.

At the same time, A is diffusing out, reducing the rate of development.

I believe I was in fact guilty of thread drift! So I've posted my question in the Beginner Questions, ie on which forum should I use for carbon printing.

 

Paul

My favorite film with Diafine is Panatomic-X, so that might also be my favorite for stand, if I ever did stand.