HEY, GLENN!

Maybe you should use another nomenclature for what used to be the Photo of the Week, since it's rare nowadays that the next POTW is posted 1 week after the previous one. I suggest something like, "Next Photo for Discussion."

I don't think Glenn is with the site anymore....

I am here - how can I help you?

I am here - how can I help you?

 

First, can you put the remorse to bed once and for all? Is this Glenn? If not, who are you?

 

Secondly, is there ever going be a new POTW posted? If so, when?

Is this Glenn? If not, who are you?

Michael...I would bet...my membership fee that the helpful person who replied is the one Tech staff who has been running around trying to keep this pale shadow of the former PN afloat.

The diction tells the tale...

Maybe you should use another nomenclature for what used to be the Photo of the Week, since it's rare nowadays that the next POTW is posted 1 week after the previous one. I suggest something like, "Next Photo for Discussion."

Michael, we looked at this b4.

 

Q. Why don’t you create a POTW of your own?

 

A. Because one of our beloved mods will delete it.

 

Therefore, if u want 2 DISCUSS A PHOTO EVERY WEEK, take the absence of a USER SUGGESTED POTW up with the godly, saintly mods who CRUSH such ACTIVITY, just because.

Michael, just for you

 

The Brand Spanking new POTW foto 4

Tuesday has historically been the day that POTW is revealed....last week was missed because they deleted the photo - we notify the photographer before it is posted as POTW and sometimes they wish not to be the center of your critiques so they delete the photo.

Tuesday has historically been the day that POTW is revealed....last week was missed because they deleted the photo - we notify the photographer before it is posted as POTW and sometimes they wish not to be the center of your critiques so they delete the photo.

 

Although I appreciate the explanation, you didn't answer my other questions. You owe that to all the members who have stuck with PN to this date, including me,

This is Glenn.

 

First, can you put the remorse to bed once and for all? Is this Glenn? If not, who are you?

 

Secondly, is there ever going be a new POTW posted? If so, when?

glen can you confirm the snail mail address?

how can I help you?

Stop posting as if you're a robot.

 

Example:

This is Glenn.

 

Answer questions asked in the site help forum more regularly.

 

Don't take complaints as defensively as you do. Know that PN2.0 has been a botched job, take responsibility for it, and deal more forthrightly with the fallout that's a natural result of the poorly-functioning “update.”

 

Communicate with membership regularly. Become more a part of the community you insist must be community-minded itself.

 

Communicate with MODERATORS regularly. It's bizarre that a couple of long-time moderators thought you were no longer part of PN.

 

[see THIS THREAD where a moderator suggests you are no longer with the site.]

[see THIS THREAD where a moderator complains that moderators don't have the tools they need to see the site through smoothly and that the moderators' forum has been discontinued and moderators have been shut out of the loop.

 

Figure out a way to let all members renew their memberships on the off chance they may want to.

 

Figure out a way to allow members to delete some photos in their galleries without those photos reappearing even after they've been confirmed as having been deleted.

 

Stop giving the same excuses for obvious problems. It's been brought to your attention over and over that a POTW does not appear in a given week. You come back continually claiming that photographers are deleting their photos when they learn one of theirs has become Photo of the Week, as if that's the end of it. You've said you don't want to force anyone to keep their photo up for this. This is a reasonable position. Then figure out a way to feature a photo on a photo site as Photo of the Week without the chance that it will be deleted, a way that doesn't force anyone to be the photographer of the week against their wishes. If you can't figure this out, consider carefully what that likely means.

All good suggestions Norma, I will try to do all you suggest. I have been focused on ways to generate revenue as this business has significant expenses we need to cover, plus working with our team of developers and dev ops and QA to fix and enhance the site. No one is in a centralized office, I live in New England, we have a developer that lives in Bonn Germany and there are two other developers that work remotely - everyone else is a contract worker here at photo.net so the team isn't huge and we are all working remotely. We have made great strides since we launched and while many choose to focus on the challenges we still face, I still see much good here and things are improving. As it relates to POTW....if you have a suggestion on how to address that issue then by all means please share your solution. We are not forcing members to be POTW - we send an email letting them know their photo was chosen and they can delete the photo - agreed the current system in place doesn't address this however in the near future when this happens we are reworking it to push the next weeks nomination forward. We have in QA the function that allows photographers to "opt-into" consideration for POTW and that photo will not be deleted. Until this is released, Photographers can still delete photos as they wish. Which brings me to another piece of POTW - we will have a nominate this photo function and it will bring all of you into the mix of deciding which photo is featured. In the end, many of your frustrations are my frustrations. We are in this together.

This is water under the bridge, but if the forum software transition hadn't been botched so terribly and you actually had people who knew what they were doing from the beginning, it probably wouldn't have been necessary to scramble for revenue...

 

I'm still struggling as to how a site like this thinks it can even remain functional when you don't communicate with your(volunteer) moderators about what's going on-plus have lone wolf moderators running around deleting threads where people show that they are misinformed.

Moderators can come and go as they please - they are volunteers. They do have permissions others do not have - if any moderator said they don't have tools we can reach out to them to see what they're talking about - but I can assure you Xenforo has moderator tools that allow them to edit, delete, warn, report, ban users as well as administer spam.

Moderators can come and go as they please - they are volunteers. They do have permissions others do not have - if any moderator said they don't have tools we can reach out to them to see what they're talking about - but I can assure you Xenforo has moderator tools that allow them to edit, delete, warn, report, ban users as well as administer spam.

 

This is not the point I was making.

 

Multiple moderators have reported that they are as in the dark about what's going on as the membership at large. They also report that the moderators forum-one of the fundamental bed-rocks of the proper operation of ANY forum-no longer exists. If I were still a moderator, these things would greatly concern me, and I admit that they still concern me a lot as a member of this site.

 

Ben

 

Once a Pnet moderator, now an active moderator on an unrelated large, high traffic message board

we have the ability to DM each other as well as email each other again moderator tools allow us to admin the forums. Xenforo is built for this.

we have the ability to DM each other as well as email each other again moderator tools allow us to admin the forums. Xenforo is built for this.

 

To me, the fact that you don't see the point I made as a problem is very telling...

Glenn - - - All good suggestions Norma, I will try to do all you suggest. I have been focused on ways to generate revenue as this business has significant expenses we need to cover, plus working with our team of developers and dev ops and QA to fix and enhance the site. No one is in a centralized office, I live in New England, we have a developer that lives in Bonn Germany and there are two other developers that work remotely - everyone else is a contract worker here at photo.net so the team isn't huge and we are all working remotely. We have made great strides since we launched and while many choose to focus on the challenges we still face, I still see much good here and things are improving. As it relates to POTW....if you have a suggestion on how to address that issue then by all means please share your solution. We are not forcing members to be POTW - we send an email letting them know their photo was chosen and they can delete the photo - agreed the current system in place doesn't address this however in the near future when this happens we are reworking it to push the next weeks nomination forward. We have in QA the function that allows photographers to "opt-into" consideration for POTW and that photo will not be deleted. Until this is released, Photographers can still delete photos as they wish. Which brings me to another piece of POTW - we will have a nominate this photo function and it will bring all of you into the mix of deciding which photo is featured. In the end, many of your frustrations are my frustrations. We are in this together.

 

Me - - - Indeed, we are in this together. Yet, I find your response to Norma somewhat disengenuous. Good, workable suggestions have been made by Noirma, by Fred, by me, by .... I haven't yet seen any evidence that any of them actually have been implemented. As to the size of the team, this is not our problem, quite frankly. You need to address that to PN's parent company. We depend on your team, however small it may be, to get things right.

Edited July 14, 2018 by Spearhead