glen_h Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I was just looking at film pricing, 120 vs. 135-36 from my favorite dealer. It looks to me that for black and white film 120 is more expensive than 135-36, but for color negative and slide, 120 is less expensive than 135-36. As I understand it, the film area is pretty much equal, but no idea on how they price them. Otherwise, it is nice to have Kodak 100 foot rolls more reasonably priced again. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The last 120 Tri-X I bought(probably two months ago) was around $28 for a 5 roll box. That's a bit less than the ~$6/roll I typically pay for 135-36. For slide film now, the difference is outrageous with Velvia holding at a bit over $40 for a 5 roll box of 120 and $70+ for 135-36. It's worth mentioning that 120 has a bit less surface area than 135-36, and the base is usually a bit thinner. I suspect that 35mm has higher production costs as I would expect the can+spool+lids to cost more than the spool+backing paper, but then 35mm does also benefit from economies of scale. Just don't start pricing Kodak and Fuji sheet film...fortunately Ilford keeps prices pretty much even per surface area as compared to the other two. Sheet film has the least elaborate packaging of any of them(just the 3 part box, the plastic bag, and the cardboard ends) but also sells in MUCH smaller volumes and is coated on a totally different base(polyester vs. acetate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Nearby store agrees with the $40 for Velvia 100 in 120, but $53.20 for 135-36, So, more but not outrageously more. I don't know how to compare spool+paper to can+spool+lids, but it should be the same for any film. Economy of scale might be different for 120 vs 135-36, and black and white vs. color. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 tmy-400 120 from B&H pro pk (5 rolls) was $24.50 last week when i ordered. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 tmy-400 120 from B&H pro pk (5 rolls) was $24.50 last week when i ordered. It is $29.50 plus tax at a nearby store, but no shipping charge (if I go to the store). -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 i wish PN would put back locations under our avitars again. pricing film is also about location. my friends in canada are paying a fortune for film and darkroom materials. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 i wish PN would put back locations under our avitars again. pricing film is also about location. my friends in canada are paying a fortune for film and darkroom materials. Sometimes I put USD on prices instead of $, but I didn't here. Canada should be able to mail order from US, but the higher postage will also increase the price. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Over here (Europe), prices vary wildly per shop and brand; some shops have good prices on Ilford, but Kodak expensive, some the reverse. Price differences between 120 and 135 are not that big in most cases. The only one that is expensive anywhere in 135 is Acros 100, while in 120 it's reasonable priced. Price for chemicals seems the same everywhere in contrast. For E6 film, I only use Agfa Precisa CT100, which looks remarkably like Provia 100 at half the price. All other slide films are just horribly expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The only one that is expensive anywhere in 135 is Acros 100, while in 120 it's reasonable priced. I just recently tried my first roll of it after buying two boxes of it in 120. I thought 120 was more than reasonable-I forget what exactly I paid, but it was in the ballpark of the other 120 B&W films we're discussing here($25-30 for a 5 pack). I had a bit of sticker shock on 35mm, though, and opted not to buy any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Ok, my nearby store now has TMZ and also still Delta 3200, so I bought a roll of each. (USD 10.25 for TMZ, 10.50 for Delta 3200.) I also bought a bottle of T-Max developer to go with it. The Kodak times for TMX with T-Max developer go to EI 25000, but only to 6400 for most other developers, such as the HC-110 that I already have. Now, to actually use it ... -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 maybe all the pics should go in a no words post here? anybody got any yet? The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The only one that is expensive anywhere in 135 is Acros 100, while in 120 it's reasonable priced. Rumor has it Acros 100 will be discontinued by the end of this year. So prices will most probably go sky-high pretty soon. I miss those days when Acros 100 for 35 mm was selling at 2.5$ I just don't get what's Fuji's game. Why are they pulling from film business. As for the prices, here's all available films in my country and their respective prices converted to UDS: 1. Fujifilm C200 - 6-6.5$ 2. AgfaPhoto Vista 200 and 400 - 8 and 8.5$ respectively 3. Fujifilm Superia Xtra 400 - 9.5$ 4. Kodak ColorPlus 200 - 9.6$ 5. Ilford HP5+ 120 format - 14$ All of the prices are for single rolls. Talk about expensive and "why is film photography dying in Georgia". There is also BW medical "Kodak CFT" (god knows what that is) hand-rolled into 35 mm cans which goes for 2-3$. There are no E-6 films whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Foma films are sold in Europe for a good price. Even in the Netherlands you can get them (135-36 or 120 roll film) for Eur. 3,60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5. Ilford HP5+ 120 format - 14$ All of the prices are for single rolls. Talk about expensive and "why is film photography dying in Georgia". These are insane prices. But what is your problem ordering in the Czech Republic, Germany or the Netherlands for a good price? I get my special photochemicals from Odessa Ukraine. So depending on the maximum price of materials before you have to pay import duties it is rather simple to receive an airpack with films for a small price. The problem only starts when you are dependent in payment via Western Union or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikheilrokva Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5. Ilford HP5+ 120 format - 14$ All of the prices are for single rolls. Talk about expensive and "why is film photography dying in Georgia". Add that to average wage of 300 euros per month :D I don't have the problem with ordering goods from abroad, in fact all of my gear comes from overseas. And I've seen Foma films on their own website for as low as 3 euros, although shipping is around 6.5 eu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Add that to average wage of 300 euros per month :D Not better in Ukraine. And the conflict with Russia made it even worse. Well the same happened with Georgia. Indeed the cheapest film, Fomapan 100 is available just over Eur. 3,- if you are ordering some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotohuis RoVo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Otherwise, it is nice to have Kodak 100 foot rolls more reasonably priced again 100ft/30,5m cheaper alternatives in Europe: FP100, FP200, FP400, Retropan 320 soft. OrWo Filmotec UN 54 and N74+. Kodak 5222 double-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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