Norma Desmond Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 There was a new POTW posted early on Tuesday. It was even posted in the right location on the thumbnail page, unlike many recent new POTWs which haven't appeared in the first position. It is now gone. We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Which forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Sometimes I think that Admin is just playing mind-fu*king games with us. "Uh, let's see how we can drive them mad this week!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Actually, this week's (the nude) is still there. It was last week's that disappeared. We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Actually, this week's (the nude) is still there. It was last week's that disappeared. More evence to support my previous conjecture . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-P Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nobody messing with you gentlemen....it just that a photographer can remove their photo at any point and that will impact POTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Glenn, are you aware that, in the past, when a photo was chosen as POTW, the software was able to be programmed so that that photo could not be deleted, thereby maintaining the integrity of that little corner of the site? I believe a user could hide the photo in his own portfolio but that would not affect its appearing in its slot in the POTW history. By the way, I didn't think anyone was intentionally messing with us. It seems like an issue of omission, not deliberateness or malice. We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-P Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Glenn, are you aware that, in the past, when a photo was chosen as POTW, the software was able to be programmed so that that photo could not be deleted, thereby maintaining the integrity of that little corner of the site? I believe a user could hide the photo in his own portfolio but that would not affect its appearing in its slot in the POTW history. By the way, I didn't think anyone was intentionally messing with us. It seems like an issue of omission, not deliberateness or malice. If a photographer wishes to remove their photos we are not going go against their wishes to have it removed - they can do so easily enough in Member Center. A possible solution is to have set up at upload they opt their photo into POTW consideration and by doing so are acknowledging it will never be removed if chosen for POTW. This will of course will reduce the pool of photos POTW can be chosen from as not all will opt into consideration for it. I suspect that the folks removing their photos are doing so because of prior conversations that have occurred in POTW got heated and/or went off track (putting it nicely) as can happen sometimes in an online photography community. Just a hunch though. Edited January 23, 2018 by G-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Viewing your photograph on the Internet is the final test (or maybe printing it is). I've see how horrible some of mine look up here, not only have I deleted them from P/N, I've deleted from my files entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 If a photographer wishes to remove their photos we are not going go against their wishes to have it removed Seems reasonable for users to have that choice, though it does make the POTW section a bit unpredictable. Thanks, though, for the explanation. A possible solution is to have set up at upload they opt their photo into POTW consideration and by doing so are acknowledging it will never be removed if chosen for POTW. Good idea, if it can be implemented without too much effort. I suspect that the folks removing their photos are doing so because of prior conversations that have occurred in POTW got heated and/or went off track (putting it nicely) as can happen sometimes in an online photography community. That's possible. It can be a tough crowd. I wonder if there's a way to make the POTW a little more appealing, as it used to garner a lot of good conversation (along with some of the harshness). Don't know if this is too much work, but I wonder if a one-time notice went out or was posted as an administrative thread, simply asking for members who would volunteer a particular photo to be POTW. Then a list could be kept and each week a photo could be randomly selected from that list. To go along with that, and this idea has actually been discussed over the years, perhaps giving the photographer the opportunity to make an accompanying opening statement would personalize the situation a little more. When there's a personal connection established, I wonder if the critiques themselves, even if negative, would maintain a reasonable degree of respect and camaraderie. We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-P Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Seems reasonable for users to have that choice, though it does make the POTW section a bit unpredictable. Thanks, though, for the explanation. Good idea, if it can be implemented without too much effort. That's possible. It can be a tough crowd. I wonder if there's a way to make the POTW a little more appealing, as it used to garner a lot of good conversation (along with some of the harshness). Don't know if this is too much work, but I wonder if a one-time notice went out or was posted as an administrative thread, simply asking for members who would volunteer a particular photo to be POTW. Then a list could be kept and each week a photo could be randomly selected from that list. To go along with that, and this idea has actually been discussed over the years, perhaps giving the photographer the opportunity to make an accompanying opening statement would personalize the situation a little more. When there's a personal connection established, I wonder if the critiques themselves, even if negative, would maintain a reasonable degree of respect and camaraderie. Having a mechanism in place on site for community nominations is something we are talking about. In effort to make POTW more predictable, plus we in theory would get a larger pool of photos coupled with a notification automatically sent to the photographer for POTW. As part of that nomination notification we would ask if they agree to have it considered and if chosen - it can never be deleted so our POTW photos can be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I'm not going to comment at this time regarding how POTWs are selected. However, Glenn, you opened another door by using the phrase "community nominations." I don't have any specific ideas as to how to implement this but, for openers, here are some topical suggestions: Photographer of the (year, quarter, month?), Most Improved Photographer of the ( ), Best Critiquer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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