A rule I didn't know about.

In most cases, it turns out not to be a mistake and then no further action would need to be taken. What I do when I come across a photo that baffles me, where I don't see the connection to the theme, is not look for instant gratification. I allow it to stew for a day or two, coming back to the photo in the hopes that, in time and with fresh eyes, I'll get it. Only then, if I'm still baffled and it's important to me, will I contact the poster directly.

 

If the poster, on his own, or with your help through a private message, realizes he mistakenly posted it, he can contact Walt, the moderator of the No Words forum, by clicking on Walt's name and starting a conversation with him, and ask him to remove it. We cannot remove our own photos once they've been posted for more than 10 minutes. That's long been the policy of the site and I don't see it changing and it's not unique to the No Words forum. It's also a different subject from making the No Words forum a Words forum, for which I see no reason. It's set up as a place for no words, which is why it's called No Words.

I may get thrown out of here over this--but here goes.

 

The best part of PN for me these days is the 'No Words' board. Like Gordon, I often look through my NEF files for something appropriate--and end up finding one or two images that will work for my professional portfolio--the ones that are for sale and situated in various venues. It is a learning experience and a chance to have fun with my photographic peers.

 

I understand the reason for the rule--there are attention 'prostitutes' (instead of a better word beginning with W) who unchecked will monopolize a thread or board. I saw many years ago WHY this rule was necessary--long before any of the current moderators or Glenn came on board in their roles. Give some people an inch, and they will ruin things for everyone else.

 

Yet, it is demonstrable that those of us who participate in the NWF are by far the most consistent, regular, and participating members of PN. We are also the most disciplined. That said, all of us there are possibly the most valuable asset to the forum side of "interest" operations. Please, don't crap on our heads, given the absolute mess this place has turned into since the transition to PN 2.x.

 

Long time contributing members--those who have led to the success of this venue--are dropping off in droves. This is undeniable. We are deluged with newbies that ask such questions as "Should I buy vintage Kodachrome" or "What lens shot this photo." Please... I understand that this venue is one that should be welcoming and informative to all--but if the skilled and interested leave due to what honestly must be the greatest calamity in site upgrades in internet history--there is an issue.

 

We are now 5 months or more into the transition. So many things are unworkable, broken, difficult to navigate, or ignored. We are told of an imaginary "team" of developers and testers--both have proven themselves either smoke or incompetent. Multiple members have sent notes of distress to the "owners" at NameMedia. None have received a response. This information circulates on the backside of things--this is not just one or two people who are disappointed or have an axe to grind. Yet when posted publicly in a thread--forum administrators give us no response or acknowledgement that our concerns are valid. Darkness is good.

 

I have been here, and a supporter since 1999. I was a reader (sandbagger) prior to that. In my estimation, the course and approach we are seeing here is simply appalling. NO SITE SUCCEEDS WITHOUT THE CONTENT THAT MEMBERS GENERATE. Our content is the value that owners capitalize on. Fact...

 

Yes, let's make sure that no one uses a bad word. Let's delete threads or posts that we do not like--or challenge the administration. Great strategy for success. I am bereft of what course is being plotted for this venue except for its ability to appeal to trendy, mobile device users. And factually, where are they?

 

Meh...

 

Ya say ya want something humorous? It's a description (in German) of the "team". Are you familiar the GMBH designation for Corp. It stands for Gemeinschaft Mit Beschrenkte Haffnung. However our "team" is a Genossenschaft Mit Beschissene Hosen.

As I said above, Erwin, if you're looking for a place to look at photos and have a little conversation, there are many such places on this site and you're welcome to start a thread in any other forum that is a Word/No Words thread. I don't quite see the point in destroying No Words so that you can do what you can do anywhere else on the site. It's a nice forum. Leave it as is. If you don't care for its structure, it seems relatively easy not to use it and, instead, create or participate in the kinds of threads you like in any other forum on the site.

As I said above, Erwin, if you're looking for a place to look at photos and have a little conversation, there are many such places on this site and you're welcome to start a thread in any other forum that is a Word/No Words thread. I don't quite see the point in destroying No Words so that you can do what you can do anywhere else on the site. It's a nice forum. Leave it as is. If you don't care for its structure, it seems relatively easy not to use it and, instead, create or participate in the kinds of threads you like in any other forum on the site.

 

 

Fred

When I first joined I was able to add an image title to indicate why the post fits the topic. Not now. Perhaps I need additional research. When contributing to a text forum my preference is to succintly assist anyone who needs a solution particularly when I have actually experienced and solved a similar problem. No More no less. The site destruction inuendo makes me think of my contributions to take up much more PN real estate than I should as a number of my posts have each turned to 29 pages of gibberish as a result of the the new interface (which I love!) being initiated.

When I first joined I was able to add an image title to indicate why the post fits the topic. Not now. Perhaps I need additional research.

You do need additional research. Read the very top thread in the list of No Words threads and it will give you the guidelines for the No Words forum. Here's a relevant passage:

 

"A sentence or two regarding how you made the photo, the technique, or about the subject is permitted, however discussions and comments about the submissions are not allowed in this forum. Those are best posted in the Critique Forum. If you wish to comment on a member's photo that you saw in this forum use the PhotoNet messaging system and send a message directly to the contributor, or alternatively, send an email. DO NOT post comments into this forum."

 

It really does seem easy to understand and quite straightforward.

Just because I often can't see the connection between the image and the post, I don't assume there isn't one. I assume that maybe the poster is smarter than I am which is not that much of a stretch. I agree with Fred, why fool around with a good thing.

Just because I often can't see the connection between the image and the post, I don't assume there isn't one. I assume that maybe the poster is smarter than I am which is not that much of a stretch. I agree with Fred, why fool around with a good thing.

 

I suppose what I would be asking the poster is what might be an appropriate title for the image. Nothing more.

I suppose what I would be asking the poster is what might be an appropriate title for the image. Nothing more.

Mystery is wonderful and spurs the imagination. Facts and the truth are often boring.

Edited September 17, 2017 by tholte

When I first joined I was able to add an image title to indicate why the post fits the topic. Not now.

 

Not sure I understand this (so what's new ?)

 

AFAIK, it is possible to add lines of text before an image, after an image, or both in NW, and I don't think anyone has an issue with that. What is being discussed is the posting of a comment concerning another image (and I have been guilty of this myself). To me, these are two separate scenarios - or have I got it wrong (again)?

This rule about contributors not posting another thread within 24 hours of their first one in No Words has been around and understood since I became a paying member ten years ago.

 

There's a good reason for it. Image overload where one poster who may or may not squat on this site 24/7 gets more attention by posting endless thread topics one after another. Same applies for those posting more than one image within the same thread within 24hr period.

 

You guys couldn't figure that out? Yeah, senior moment my a$$!

 

Wait. What??

Same applies for those posting more than one image within the same thread within 24hr period. Where does that appear? If I understand that correctly one can post as many images they want to a thread as long as they are 24 hours apart. Please Clarify. That's not what I hold.

Wait. What??

Same applies for those posting more than one image within the same thread within 24hr period. Where does that appear? If I understand that correctly one can post as many images they want to a thread as long as they are 24 hours apart. Please Clarify. That's not what I hold.

 

You are correct, erwin.

 

The No Words Forum's rules state that any one user may only post ONE image to any one particular No Words thread.

 

That rule has been so as long as I have been a member and before that time, too.

 

Below, is a copy of the "Sticky" page of the rules and that point is quite clear - it is in bold. (the text uses the word "theme" which does indeed mean any one, individual "thread".

 

 

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