Canon 6D Mark II

Joystick still missing.

No Joystick

No AF assist light

Dubious EOS-3 like focusing points

No Built-in flash

1/4000 shutter speed; my 2005 30D has 1/8000 shutter speed for Christ Sakes !

Gimicky features like blue tooth and GPS

Hope the price goes down....

There is always going to be new model coming every few years. It is what they do. Something is improved, could be

ISO

Resolution

Focusing system

Menu

Button

Touchscreen

USB 3

You never really know till it is released.

The 6D is a good camera.

The next version will improve on it. Just have to wait and see how.

everything new has a few more megapixels (and bluetooth)

Non DXO Dynamic Range Canon 6D Mark 1.

 

Canon 6D review: Noise and dynamic range | TechRadar

I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this. The 6D (mark 1) was released in 2012. Just in case there was some confusion, that was nearly 5 years (!!!) ago. While I can certainly agree with some of the criticisms of the features of both the 6D and the 6D2, for the price, and specific niche the 6D was designed for, it's a pretty darn good option (esp. now). Obv. we'll see about how good the mk2 is, but I've got to admit, if it's even half decent in actual performance, it's specs make it pretty hard to justify a 5D4 w/ a 6D2 on the market, unless you are a dedicated pro... especially w/ the improved AF system (although it's coverage is... ridiculous), and 6.5 FPS.

When my 5D3s get replaced, I'll be seriously considering stepping down to a 6D2... although that'll obv. be years from now.

2000 USD for a plastic body

I recommend buying a dedicated hammer for driving nails into walls, no matter what your current or future camera bodies might be made of. AFAIK Bluetooth and WLAN waves don't travel easily through metal bodies. And as nice as metal might look in the beginning; why should it be the superior material? Does a thin tin cover with dings really look better than plastic? - I mean you'll find plastic inside every digital camera. and critical parts of the oh so awesome "built like a tank" metal covered lenses are made from plastic too, if we are talking AF &/ zooms.

In a world full of electric buttons waiting to fail a plastic body cover is my last thing to worry about. At least it doesn't grow oxydes on it's inside that sooner or later will interfere with electronics next to them.

I recommend buying a dedicated hammer for driving nails into walls, no matter what your current or future camera bodies might be made of. AFAIK Bluetooth and WLAN waves don't travel easily through metal bodies. And as nice as metal might look in the beginning; why should it be the superior material? Does a thin tin cover with dings really look better than plastic? - I mean you'll find plastic inside every digital camera. and critical parts of the oh so awesome "built like a tank" metal covered lenses are made from plastic too, if we are talking AF &/ zooms.

In a world full of electric buttons waiting to fail a plastic body cover is my last thing to worry about. At least it doesn't grow oxydes on it's inside that sooner or later will interfere with electronics next to them.

Another thing about metal is that it gets hard to hold when the temperature falls below freezing.With that said here are the things I find important in a camera.

1) Weather sealing

2 Quiet shutter (The days of photographers crashing fashion shows wearing bell-bottoms, sun glasses and flowered shirts with noisy CLATICKY-CLACK cameras are over)

3) Big Pixel size(Rather than number of pixels)

4) Number of pixels (I'm satisfied with 20-25 MP unless I'm shooting bill boards for the MTA)

5) Quick playback time (instantaneous preferred)

6) Relatively fast shutter speed(6 FPS or above)

7) DYNAMIC RANGE (12+EV, the more, the better)

8) Accurate AWB (even in Tungsten)

9) Accurate LCD screen

10) Ability to scroll through playback images quickly when they are zoomed

11) High ISO tolerance (6400+ with no noise)

12) Live view Quick Focus

13) Smooth rendering of images(Check !)

14) Support (check !)

15) Lenses (check !)

16) FEATURES ! (nobody wants just a box with a sensor, after spending 2 grand)

I recommend buying a dedicated hammer for driving nails into walls, no matter what your current or future camera bodies might be made of. AFAIK Bluetooth and WLAN waves don't travel easily through metal bodies. And as nice as metal might look in the beginning; why should it be the superior material? Does a thin tin cover with dings really look better than plastic? - I mean you'll find plastic inside every digital camera. and critical parts of the oh so awesome "built like a tank" metal covered lenses are made from plastic too, if we are talking AF &/ zooms.

In a world full of electric buttons waiting to fail a plastic body cover is my last thing to worry about. At least it doesn't grow oxydes on it's inside that sooner or later will interfere with electronics next to them.

Plastic is Plastic no matter what they try to tell you. Imagine driving a plastic car, would you feel safe ? 5 years ago I purchased a Metz 58-AF 2 Flash and 2 years later I began having problems with the plastic battery door(hardly ever used) . Don't get me wrong, I had all sorts of problems with plastic gear and metal gear. The only difference is that plastic products melt easily, break easier, they are disposable and cheap. Physics is physics.

Plastic is Plastic no matter what they try to tell you. Imagine driving a plastic car, would you feel safe ?

The only plastic car issue I am aware of is recalling a coworker's laments how frequently the "Corvette" logos get stolen. - He dodged my suggestion to use the meanest Epoxy glue on the market to hold them in place with "Then people would tear out a shard of my trunk" - I'd love to get hold of a plastic clad steel cage or fully carbon fiber car, motorcycle or in between. Rust ate my previous wheel set and current's 1st exhaust tube.

I share your Metz' battery compartment issue. - One of my Pentax FGZ 360s is bungeed shut. My Nikon's battery compartment is half cracked, a common Coolpix 990 issue. But still: Modern photo devices with dedicated lithium batteries seem to do much better in that field than old ones on AAs? As a Metz fanboy: The (older) units I have have at least no electrically relevant lids that could break and stop the show. Do we read complaints about Canon plastic body durability issues? - I haven't yet but can start again about my Pentax film body that lost contact to the motor drive due to a bent base plate.

Upon your list:

1. Weather sealing. As questionable as usual but surely nice to have. Canon sell raincoats for their cameras, so don't rely on them as they are.
   
2. Quiet shutter: A great plus. - My CCD Leica Ms are noisier; especially their gear grinding, while they rewind sounds worse than the 5D IV.
   
3. IMHO pixel quality, influenced by AA filters or high ISO noise reduction matters at the end of the day. - Not sure if there is a remaining real advantage for big pixels.
   
4. I don't count pixels on the sensor. - I count pixels for sale or DxO's PMP, but yes agreed.
   
5. Playback time should be mainly a card issue on a modern camera?
   
6. I'm new to this world of fast rewinding shutters, especially with AF working between clicks, but yes, nice to have!
   
7. Who tested the dynamic range etc. of the 6D II yet? - I thought all we have is specs & hope?
   

Live view AF was what sold me Canon, besides the 70-200mm lens. Support seems relative (although probably the best). To my understanding owning 6Ds won't get you loaners. - But yes rentals seem in reach and you can gain silver level CPS = 5 days turn around promised. Still what is the bigger worry? Not getting your pictures home due to a corrupted single card or not getting the next shot done waiting for your repair? - I have no answer for that one. I had little card trouble so far and recovery software worked for me. I'll most likely bring 2 cameras anywhere but don't feel urged to get rid of the single slot bodies I have.

No clue about features yet. - I don't run WLAN at home and feel unwilling to buy a phone contract that permits uploading in the field, so for me it might be easier to complain about lack of features, like manual focus assist or (more usable) 4K video and related stuff. I haven't grown muscle or menu memory to toggle GPS on and off, yet.

The difference in production cost between a "plastic with aluminum alloy frame" and a "magnesium alloy body" is not immensely huge and is completely irrelevant in 99.9% of actual performance - it as also not worth a $700-800 reduction in price. I don't understand the complaint though. A plastic body is going to affect your photography exactly zero. The composition of the body has nothing to do with the weatherproofing. As you say, your Pentax is plastic and it seems to work just fine. This isn't a car (which is a salient point if you plan to leave your camera in the driveway for a decade - though it didn't seem to bother saturn drivers ;) ), and if you toss it off a mountain, regardless of the composition of the body, it's still going to be broken at the bottom.

As far as the popularity of the camera? The 6D is/was a pretty popular camera and had aprox the same $2k price tag when it first came out. It also has/had a plastic body. OTOH I did once use one of my 5D2s as a hammer and it worked pretty well...

DPreview tested the dynamic range of a production model of the 6D II,( Canon 6D Mark II dynamic range falls behind modern APS-C cameras ), and concluded that, despite it being full-frame, dynamic range falls behind modern APS-C cameras. The review concludes,

"Sadly though, it seems the benefits that appeared in the sensors used in the EOS 80D and EOS 5D IV have not been applied to the latest EOS 6D II, and the new camera has less dynamic range than we've become used to."

This puts a damper on my enthusiasm for buying the camera as an update for my 5D II . I may now be inclined to save my pennies for a 5D IV, if, and when, I can justify the cost.

DPreview now has a more thorough review of the 6D II at

Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review

One of heir less than enthusiastic conclusions is that, "It's true that nearly every objective specification of the 6D Mark II has been improved upon when compared with its predecessor, while the release price has remained the same. Unfortunately, unless you're a die-hard Canon user with an investment in glass and you just need an affordable backup body, it's difficult to look past all that competing cameras have to offer."

I think that I will ignore my Scottish genes telling me not to spend so much money and buy a 5D IV.