High Speed Sync

<p>I am trying to figure this out and I'm a little dumbfounded that I simply don't understand how to set this up. I get how high speed sync works, just not certain how to set it up on my camera and with my flashes (and have not been able to find anything on the net to guide me through the process).<br>

I own a Canon 30D, two Neewer TT560 Speedlites, and a Yongnuo YN560 Speedlite. Even though these say "Speedlite" are they compatible with the high speed sync setup on my camera? I know the logical answer would be to look at the manual that came with them, but guess what? They didn't come with one and once again, there's little information online (that I could find) in regards to their functions.<br>

I also have a little uncomplicated two channel radio trigger for slaves. Will I be able to use this/these with the flashes as well?<br>

Any help setup and tips/tricks for killer photos would be great (if I am even able to use these off brand flashes)! Thanks!</p>

<p>You need to go into the menu for "external Speedlite control." I suspect that the age of your camera may be an issue for HSS with external flash. You should see a setting that has 1st curtain/2nd curtain sync with your flash connected and powered on. If you do, you may or may not see a setting for HSS. If you don't, it's obvious your flashes can't do it. If you don't, it definitely won't work. Also, if you do see the setting, to make sure it works, set your shutter to a really high shutter speed with HSS turned on in the menu and see how your photos look. If they are messed up, it doesn't work.</p>

<p>Don't think the 30D can set high speed sync on an external flash. It's compatible with HSS on Canon Speedlites, but I think you have to set HSS on the Speedlite itself.</p>

<p>I've no idea if this can be done or how to do it with Neewer and Yongnuo flash units.</p>

<p>I don't think it will work unless you have Canon flash. My 580EX has a button to toggle between regular flash, high-speed flash, and multiple flash trigging.</p>

<p>EOS cameras of that age don't have a way to control a flash. Since you have these units I think it's a matter of trial and error; just do some tests and have fun.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone! Looks like I need to work toward a serious upgrade!</p>

 

four years later and reading this post . I mostly used Nikon but after having my back up d90 stolen by a man off of kijji who came to buy another camera and picked up both and left ...I bought the 30d as a backup I just read eos of this age is too old to high speed sync ..actually it is very easy to high speed sync on it

all of canons hss and off market do work on it as HSS...in case anyone is looking through threads and end up here like I did looking for an answer to the question

Image I did today with the canon 30d and an after market HSS (tr988) that I can actually use on both my nikons and canons

I had to change no in camera setting ( unlike my d600 and other nikons) it does manual HSS or ttl hss

 

Edited July 5, 2017 by apertureshots

Your Neewer Speedlites do not support high speed sync. What happens when you set your shutter speed to 1/250 or higher? In this situation the bottom half of the exposure in black, looks like the photo was cut in half. I love Neewer products but there TT560's are very basic and work quite well at shutter speeds at 1/125 or slower. My setup using Neewer flashes is simple. I use the Neewer 660 II as the master and the 560's as slaves. Used this way you don't need radio triggers.

four years later and reading this post . I mostly used Nikon but after having my back up d90 stolen by a man off of kijji who came to buy another camera and picked up both and left ...I bought the 30d as a backup I just read eos of this age is too old to high speed sync ..actually it is very easy to high speed sync on it

all of canons hss and off market do work on it as HSS...in case anyone is looking through threads and end up here like I did looking for an answer to the question

Image I did today with the canon 30d and an after market HSS (tr988) that I can actually use on both my nikons and canons

I had to change no in camera setting ( unlike my d600 and other nikons) it does manual HSS or ttl hss

 

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OK, not sure I would bother with HSS for that pic but if I ever come across an old Neewer flash and a really old Canon 30D I'll try to remember

The newer TT560 Flash is a manual only flash, it will not do High-Speed Sync. If you look at the bottom of the flash where it goes into the camera hot shoe, you will see only one pin that is used to trigger the flash only. There are no other pins or circuitry for the flash to communicate with the camera to do things like high sped sync or first or second curtain flash. Even if you put these in slave mode and trigger them from the flash of a high speed sync flash they will fire but the flash will be out of sync with and shutter speed faster than 1/200th second. I own 5 of these. I typically use them for indoor work putting these on 13 foot stands in large rooms to light up the room using radio triggers or for studio type work. I will also use a Speedlight on top of the camera with a bounce diffuser attached. I keep the shutter speed at 1/200 to 1/100sec, play with the manual flash power setting depending on room size and number of flashes used.You will have to keep your shutter speed at 1/200th of a second or slower and use your f-stop and ISO to make small adjustments, with the Canon 30D you probably want to keep ISO under 600 so most of your adjustment will have to be done with f-stop or altering power settings on the flash. I get very nice shots with this method. For outdoors in daylight, these flashes will be of little use without high speed sync and wide open apertures unless you wanted to start experimenting with neutral density filters to lower the overall light from the sun to allow you to open up the aperture of the lens and still use shutter speeds at 1/200th or slower. It can be done, but neutral density filters can effect your color, especially low-cost (cheap) ND filters and the photos will need some finessing in Lightroom post to get the color looking good.

 

The Yongnuo TYN560 does support high speed sync, I tried looking for some info and saw someone was using it with a 20D. They said the controls for the flash would have to be done on the flash, so I am not sure how well it will communicate with your 30D. I do not own the

Yongnuo TYN560 nor have I owned a 30D so I can't help you on that. I have owned a 40D and still have a 7D, 6D and 5D Mark IV with a Canon 580 EX II speedlight and I set the high speed sync on the flash and go into the camera flash menu and select high sync and it all works. I would think it would be similar on your Yongnuo unless there is some compatibility issue.

A few points we might note:

 

> The Opening Post by 'eye4animage’ was published October 2013

> The last activity on Photonet by 'eye4animage’ was November 2013

> This conversation was revived with the commentary published by ‘apertureshots’

 

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four years later and reading this post . . . I bought the 30d as a backup I just read eos of this age is too old to high speed sync ..actually it is very easy to high speed sync on it all of canons hss and off market do work on it as HSS . . . Image I did today with the canon 30d and an after market HSS (tr988) that I can actually use on both my nikons and canons

 

For clarity - the Opening Post was asking about an EOS 30D and the capability to HSS with two nominated Flash units.

 

The fact that you made an HSS image with a Neewer TR988 and the 30D is useful information, but it is not directly relevant to the Opening Post which was asking about the EOS 30D HSS with the Neewer TT560 and a Yongnuo YN560 Flash Units.

 

When using a 30D, the HSS is set and controlled on the Flash Unit, (as Bob Atkins mentioned)

 

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. . . The Yongnuo TYN560 does support high speed sync . . .

 

Assuming that is a typo and you meant ‘Yongnuo YN560’ (which is one of the Flash Units mentioned in the OP), I think that statement is incorrect.

 

I think that the first flash which Yongnuo released capable of HSS, was the YN-568EX, followed by the smaller YN500EX and those units were a few years after the Yongnuo YN560 was released.

 

There are a few iterations of the TN560, up to the MkIV, and I understand that none of that series is HSS capable.

 

There is a capacity to ‘fake’ HSS using any of the YN560 series Flash Units in an off camera position as a Slave Flash Unit, whilst using a Main Flash (which is capable of HSS), to trigger the Yongnuo Flash Unit.

 

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