A New Wrinkle in the MTA Debacle

I've argued with cops plenty, and I've not been arrested yet. Even if I were to be arrested, it would not stop me from arguing. An arrest means that cop goes before a judge to explain his actions in front of one who can short-stop him in a heartbeat.

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All I can think to ask is, are some in the US going to let a single ignorant (uninformed) or arrogant cop/security guard/lackey stand in the way of your Constitutional rights? There are greater monsters to fear, namely fear itself and the lack of resolve that often creates. If you won't stand up for yourself, who can you expect will?

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CE Nelson - <a href="http://nelsonfoto.com/phpBB2/index.php">NelsonFoto Forums</a>

I've got a cop friend, the one who trained me to pass the Texas concealed handgun test and he says the disorderly conduct charge is his favorite. He's never lost an argument.

 

The caution is that even though the offense is a misdemeanor, it is the only non felony one that will disqualify you for or cause your ccl to be revoked.

<b>"I've got a cop friend [...]"</b>

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Did you give him the reach-around after yer training? Maybe invite him to bone your wife and drink your best beer afterward? What a stud, this cop.<p>

That you state publically that "a friend" loves to use the disorderly conduct charge against citizens who question his logic, apparently, in context of this thread, when he's acting to deprive a person of their civil liberties, and then boast that this <i>friend</i> has "never lost an argument" speaks volumes about <i>your</i> character. You both must have had a good laugh then, eh?

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I don't know about the others here, but I'd be more likely to appeal to the state's attorney to open an investigation into the guy's booking history and to assist in getting the screw to run his mouth on tape about it. In fact, getting down to brass tacks, by your own admission of prior knowledge you are potentially responsible for past and future acts by this <i>friend</i>. Did you stop to consider the impact of your words before posting such a thing? Do you agree with his conduct? If not, you should have acted, and if still engaging this person in friendship, you should consider acting now.

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C.

Gee, you've got a lot of anger in there. Just remember the first rule of good sense and that is that if you go looking for trouble you will find it. Of course if you ever face a judge I'm sure he will find your rants very persuasive.<div></div>

No anger, bud. Yer friend, if indeed your story is true, is a very real example of a "bad" cop, one who is more interested in enforcing his brand of law. Thanks for the stock response to my post. I like how you jack off at the lip about "looking for trouble" - is standing up for my rights "looking for trouble"? So be it.

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By the way - my father was a cop for many years. An honest cop who put his ass on the line time and again in the line of duty. I know what a decent cop looks like, acts like, and should be like. My kid brothers are both firemen who have put their lives at risk to help the public at large on a daily basis. I think I know what public service looks like in action. Your "friend" is a creep.

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C.

<<<I\'ve got a cop friend, the one who trained me to pass the Texas concealed handgun test and he says the disorderly conduct charge is his favorite. He\'s never lost an argument.>>>

 

I don\'t know where the Robert Davis issue stands in New Orleans. Hopefully, in the end, it\'s photographers who help him prevail. If he is honest and right I hope he inherits the whole city and the uniformed thugs bunk with Bubba.

I've argued with cops plenty, and I've not been arrested yet. Even if I were to be arrested, it would not stop me from arguing. An arrest means that cop goes before a judge to explain his actions in front of one who can short-stop him in a heartbeat.

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All I can think to ask is, are some in the US going to let a single ignorant (uninformed) or arrogant cop/security guard/lackey stand in the way of your Constitutional rights? There are greater monsters to fear, namely fear itself and the lack of resolve that often creates. If you won't stand up for yourself, who can you expect will?

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CE Nelson - <a href="http://nelsonfoto.com/phpBB2/index.php">NelsonFoto Forums</a>

 

 

R.I.P. CE Nelson

http://mpianalto.blogspot.de/2014/01/some-charming-bastard.html

Another zombie post -- 2006?

"And he'll never return no he'll never return and his fate is still unknown. He'll ride forever below the streets of Boston, he's the man who never returned."

Not exactly a zombie post. Us old timers remember Nelson from this and other forums and his personal stories as a very aggressive photographer.

This is sad to hear--even if it is old news. :(

 

The thread brought back a lot of good memories of how PN "used to be back in the day." I saw a few names that are gone from our company--and a few others that are still here but not nearly as active as they once were. Craig would get tossed out of PN today in a heartbeat by the current management... :rolleyes:

 

All joking aside (or not), things have become more complex now with the rise of smartphones and citizens who feel that they have to shoot and upload everything to FarceBook or PooTube. And 'disorderly conduct' is no longer a real thing when interacting with assifers, but the charge now is 'interfering with a law enforcement officer' or some permutation of that.

 

As Craig said, Keep. Shooting.