marius_cramer Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hello photo world, I am using HP5+ and I always push it mostly 2 stops. Right now I am using XTOL undiluted and I am getting very flat (as in no contrast) and very little grain. The look I am after is this "gritty", contrasty, grainy look and I now know XTOL is a Fine Grain Dev but didn''t know that when I ordered it. tl;dr: What Dev do HP5 Experts recommend for pushing if you want to achieve a contrasty and grainy look? Cheers Marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbcarter Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 What you are after is for the most part, not an attribute of the developer. Contrast is increased by more agitation. Increase the frequency if required. Your developement may have to be adjusted. Grain can be increased by faster development and abusive agition. To get that look, you might even do a 3 stop push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 <p>As long as you have Xtol there, perhaps a more dilute solution would add to the effect you are after. It reduces the solvent effect of the developer. Perhaps you are already using diluted but if not, try increasing the dilution and increasing the time and see if it helps to achieve the look you're after.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbcarter Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Increasing the dilution would lower the contrast and make the grain finer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_k1664875007 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 <p>Back in my film shooting days, my favourite developer to get the maximim grain was Agfa Rodinal</p> <p>Already gave an 'excellent' coarse grain with Tri-X, but it became quite spectacular with Kodak TMZ 3200 <br /> Sounds like it could work out the same the same with HP5+</p> <p>My recipe was to expose the film at 400 ASA (despite the nominal 3200 ASA value), developer dilution 1:50, development time 14 minutes at 20 degrees Celcius, with 10 second agitation per minute<br /> Of course with HP5+ you might need a different formula</p> <p>Result would look like this<br> (larger size with better visible grain at http://www.pbase.com/paul_k/image/159141665/large)</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 <p>I think HP5+ grain in Rodinal looks a bit different from Tri-X, but it's been a while since I've used Rodinal for anything. Also consider Ilford's Delta 3200. I shot some expired stock last year and found it quite grainy in HC110 dilution B.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWScott Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I like HP5+ in Diafine. I like it exposed at 640, which is pretty clean and grain is not overwhelming. 800 and 1250 work well but are grittier and contrastier -- which sounds like what you might want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willscarlett Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 <p>You should also consider Ilford DD-X</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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