bob_estremera Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 <p>Patrick, I've been shooting with the new Fuji for a few days now and yes, the shutter lag is noticeable. For 'decisive moment' shooting, that I don't do very much, I can do what worked great on my EOS M, just find the hyper focal distance for f8, set the manual focus to around 12' and shoot without any lag at all. Fast follow up shots for me just don't happen very much. For most of my urban photography, the lag is a complete non-issue. Same for portraits. I know I'll miss some fleeting expressions occasionally, but I think it's worth it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 <p>If you set AF to M and use the AFL button to AF, shutter lag will be decreased and there will be no refocus lag between shots.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_estremera Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 <p>Thanks Andy. Nice tip.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 <p>I've been using the new Fuji for about a week, and have not found any significant shutter lag, at least nothing I've noticed that made me think I missed the shot because of lag.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 <p>I have been using a Fuji Pro1 for a few months (latest software upgrade) and have nor experienced any shutter lag or focus issues. On my Fuji x-a1 it is a bit slow, but still capable.</p> <p>If, however, you are into "the decisive moment" you will be disappointed by any EVF system. There is lag, plain and simple. Patrick.</p> <p>Really. Okay, plain and simple...a photo in the real world of photography.</p> <div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_estremera Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 What are your feelings about the Fuji jpgs? People seem to love them but when I compare the RAW to the SOOC jpgs, I can see a lot of missing detail and texture, especially in the shadows. If you really want the richest file, especially for printing, it still looks to me like creating a jpg from the RAW file is still the way to go. Allen, really nice capture there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member69643 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 <blockquote> <p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=499395">Allen Herbert</a> <a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Mar 19, 2016; 04:42 p.m.</p> <p>Really. Okay, plain and simple...a photo in the real world of photography.</p> </blockquote> <p>LOL! I'm glad you felt you had to "prove" your assertion that there is no lag. You go right ahead and believe that, more power to you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 <blockquote> <p>What are your feelings about the Fuji jpgs?</p> </blockquote> <p>I think they are pretty good, and you have some really nice options with the in-camera pre-sets. You can get very usable photos right out of the camera. I have found that I still prefer the raw files, I think there is just that much more information there and the camera is pretty amazing it what the file will retain in terms of dynamic range. Plus, in Lightroom, you have the Fuji presets as post sets. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 <p>I shoot JPG on Fuji sometimes, but find the raw files more powerful in general. No matter how good a camera is, being able to tweak on a large screen is an advantage. I have a good set of color profiles for Capture One and newer versions of Lightroom have them by default, so I use a Fuji film mode and go from there.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_estremera Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 <p>I didn't realize the Fuji presets are in LR. Never looked. Thanks for the tip.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 They're not filed under presets, they're alternatives to "Adobe Standard" color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 <p>In Camera Calibration but they are only available when using Fuji raw files in LR.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_arnold Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 <p>Re: the decisive moment. didn't Bresson shoot with a manual focus camera? how did he manage to capture all those decisive moments without autofocus? hmm...</p> <p>in real world experience, the Fuji system is fairly optimal for street photography, as that was a distinct design goal. That's why they have all those wide fast primes and pancake lenses. Even the 18-55 "kit" lens is very unobtrusive and applicable for street. i get shots with that which wouldnt have been possible with my big honking full frame 24-70 which is so not stealth. so, decisive moment shooting isn't just about bodies, its about body + lens combination, as well as technique and, let's face it, anticipation. and, you can always use zone focussing or Andy's workaround. that said, there is a bit of a letdown using Fuji's AF after being spoiled by my pro Nikon, particularly when tracking in AF-C. but that really only comes into play for fast action photography. what you really want is a camera which gets out of the way and just feels like an extension of your eye. EVF lag is kind of a drag but that's probably the last remaining domino to fall in the mirrorless vs. DSLR wars. Every successive generation seems to improve a bit, and the XP2, while not perfect, is clearly Fuji's best body to date.</p> <p>in any event, i wouldn't let the EVF situation stop me from shooting street. One thing to be aware of, however, is that focus speed is highly dependent on what lens is used. the 60/2.4 is notoriously slow to rack focus since it is a macro lens, although it can be snappy in good light/high-contrast situations. re: flash, fuji has a new gun <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/news/3602216377/fujifilm-announces-development-of-ef-x500-flash">which is expected to ship</a> in May.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <p>LOL! I'm glad you felt you had to "prove" your assertion that there is no lag. You go right ahead and believe that, <a id="itxthook1" href="/digital-camera-forum/00dlpv?start=30" rel="nofollow">more power<img id="itxthook1icon" src="http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png" alt="" /></a> to you.Partick.</p> <p>I have been kind enough to show you a example of the Fuji's ability to take a photo of a decisive moment...you have scoffed at that photo as some sort of weakness. All cameras have lag but its really about the usability. Photography is about photos not words.....anyone one can spout anything on the web and proclaim anything, Patrick.</p> <p>But as photographers we look at photographs not someone spouting words...really that plain and simple to understand. Have you every used a Fuji Pro? methinks not....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 <p>Patrick, I've been shooting a GX7 a mirrorless camera with a 12-35 lens and it focuses really quickly. No really discernible difference than my D700. I've used it at weddings and on the street and never had a lagging problem, except with the Panasonic 20mm lens which is just a slow focussing lens. Wit a F-Pro2 with a 23 also is very fast. The EVFs now are getting so good, that they are totally usable, though I use to think differently until the GX7. I think your simply incorrect about the newest EVFs. Ultimately shutter lag only matters if its long enough to effect you picture. If you are talking about micro units of a second that is not perceptible, than the discussion is just theoretical and basically meaningless to actually taking and making photographs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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