Photo.net 2.0

<p>Thank you for putting V1.0 back. I am happy you had the courage to review your decision about the update. I have seen this happen too many times with big updates taken simultaneously into use, as a long time member I love this site and would like to participate in beta testing... but prefererably with changes in small babysteps.<br>

Jani</p>

<p>I am very happy that the Photo.net returned to the 1.0. The new version seems a long way from prime time. It was slow and cumbersome and I gave up using it after a few minutes. It also got horrible reviews on a thread in dpreview.</p>

 

<p>Glenn: Thank you very much... Mike</p>

<p>No option really was there. Although the initial colour and freshness of 2.0 was great it was claustrophobic and slow.<br>

For me the most important principle is that any photograph must be presented in full view in it's own space and there must be the option to view large. A viewer can then make a fair decision as to whether to view in detail and perhaps comment. That is the overriding failure of 2.0 for me.<br>

So I would post very reluctantly to 2.0 as it stands.<br>

Glad to see the end of numerical rating system though. Ironic that this was removed only for elite members to appear! <br>

Tony</p>

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<p>A good move - there's a lot of support for what you are doing and a public beta may help in achieving your aims.</p>

<p>This opinion might be due to my age but I do find 1.0 easier to navigate - I never had any complaints about the original format.</p>

<p>Thank you for reverting back to 1.0. A pleasant surprise. Please, just leave it be</p>

<p>I prefer PN 1.0. PN 2.O I don't like and I lost a lot of information. Thanks PN1.0!</p>

Glenn: I just sort of stumbled into this thread (not one of my usual Forum browses ) but, I

too would like to echo the many thanks to you and your team for the decision to at least

temporarily revert back to PN 1.0 and possibly establish a more accessible beta site for PN

2.0.

 

 

When the URL for the beta is established, can it also be posted in the other Forums where

the PN 2.0 conversations are happening, Site Help, Casual Conversations, etc., etc.?

 

. . .Jim j.

<p>Now keep it!<br /><br />What would be the advantages of 2.0? <br />OK, some may find the design antiquated. But it is exactly why I read photo.net. If the interface is gone, I go to apug and will not look back. <br />1.0 still has the elements and functionality of the times when Travels with Samantha was first online. You had the text where it was necessary and the pictures had space so you can see them. No clutter. I would have never read that long journey it it had been presented with the clutter that PN 2.0 or other modern sites impose on their users.</p>

<p>I think what we all experienced with PN 2.0 will hopefully discourage anyone else in the future from complaining to Glenn about why there's been such a long delay in fully launching it.</p>

<p>I suggest to Glenn the next time he gets any further complaints from PN members on this subject he should reply with...</p>

 

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<p><em>"Don't make me get the PN 2.0 out...I'll top this car if I have to!"</em></p>

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<p>Personally speaking, I have only one issue with this 1.0 version and always have... the 700 pixel max for images. <br>

That's it. Sure, there's other quirks with uploading, etc., but all in all I've been comfortable with the site's characteristics and performance for over 13 years now of just-about-daily visits. I have no need for any more flash or pageantry. The KISS factor comes to mind. </p>

<p>Gup said:</p>

 

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<p>Personally speaking, I have only one issue with this 1.0 version and always have... the 700 pixel max for images. <br />That's it. Sure, there's other quirks with uploading, etc., but all in all I've been comfortable with the site's characteristics and performance for over 13 years now of just-about-daily visits. I have no need for any more flash or pageantry. The KISS factor comes to mind.</p>

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I agree. This is a photography site, so why not put more emphasis on the images. All my other Forums allow BBCode and realistic sized images. While not full-screen, like Flickr, those sites allow full communication of our photographic idea. Here, viewers have to link over to other sites to get even a 1024p view. The 700p just seems outdated. </p>

<p>One of the problems I have with uploads is the softening that happens to the image that goes beyond what should be expected...when I upload to other sites, i get better renditions, more clarity and better color fidelity...pn 2.0 was an improvement in those areas and although there are many kinks to resolve, the images appeared sharper and more true to their originals...</p>

Glad we're back to the old site- but let me make a couple of observations:<br />> Sure- it didn 't work, but it had some positives.<br />> A- the images were very clear, more so than current site.<br />> B- ratings were eliminated, I guess, and that's probably good.<br />> ok- what needs to be done. > First, some kind of "how to" link since so much was changed.<br />> I finally found that the forum of Asked for critique (or some such) is similar to critique forum. Which we use mostly.<br />> The upload didn't work at all.<br />> Changes to profile don't "save" from one visit to another.<br />> The whole format seems similar to 500px. <br />> The lack of "large view" is a big minus, allowed greater inspection of quality of photo.<br />> The thumbnails without info unless hovered over is also not good. If space is needed, make 2 columns of thumbs with info, rather than the whole page full- hard to see what's what like that.<br />> You probably know all this, but I really just wanted to help. Hope your vendor (of the software) can get it sorted out.<br />> Lastly, it would be great if there were a way for the subscribers to be kept up to date on what's happening. We pay, so feel some ownership of PN and want to see it succeed.<br />> Good luck!<br />> Greg Sava</h1>

<p>Since I had no problems with the site I might as well fill you in on my platform so you know where it does work: Android 5.0, Asus Zenfone 2, Chrome</p>

<p>For what it's worth, there are still people creating new threads and posting comments to PN 2.0. And names seem to have disappeared so you can't tell who is doing the posting.</p>

<p>The link to All Posts on 2.0: http://www.photo.net/forums/</p>

<p>The link to Unified View on 1.0: http://www.photo.net/bboard/unified/</p>

 

<p>David, that's interesting and/or weird about PN 2.0.</p>

<p>The PN 2.0 page in my Firefox browser shows no "sign in or sign out" interface as it was before they went back to PN 1.0. All the avatars to each contributor has a broken icon symbol and of course no names. </p>

<p>It could be testing by administration that's making it look as if there's activity. I'm surprised it's still accessible. </p>

<p>I use Chrome on a Windows 10 OS. I couldn't right-click to select, Copy, Cut Paste. </p>

<p>Just to add when I hover the cursor over the space where my avatar used to be on PN 2.0, the dropdown menu shows I'm still logged in.</p>

<p>I considered that it might be admins doing testing. But you'd think they would write stuff like, "This is a test message." Instead, there are actual postings about different topics. One person even wrote something like, "I can't figure out why nobody is commenting on this new design." So it seems as though some people are finding their ways into the PN 2.0 forum and don't know that the rest of us have all gone back to PN 1.0. </p>

<p>I wonder what the age bracket of that one person is that's still posting in PN 2.0? How does one find the age of a PN member so we can tell we're attracting the newer, younger generation who prefer PN 2.0?</p>

<p>Change for PN was long overdue! Old version show it's age. Looks boring and it is not friendly at all. I was on new version only for couple of days. I really like it. Easy to use. Modern design. Beautiful interface. It just make sense! Stupid rating system was gone. I can't wait to get back to it! <br>

...and please no manuals How to, your designer is right!! </p>

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<p>I wonder what the age bracket of that one person is that's still posting in PN 2.0? </p>

 

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<p>>65. The post was in direct response to something said by Glenn relating to personal experience relevant to his comment.<br>

Last post (currently) in this thread - <a href="http://www.photo.net/forums/site-and-community-help-forum/photonet-site-help-forum/back-to-1-0">http://www.photo.net/forums/site-and-community-help-forum/photonet-site-help-forum/back-to-1-0</a></p>

 

<p>I guess it would be a success, if the new 2.0 had some kind of "virtual 1.0" mode with old looks to keep the old generation happy ; )</p>

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