new low price for refurbished Nikon D7200

<p>New low price of $769.99 for a refurbished D7200 body at adorama:

 

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This is $30 less than the previous deal from the Nikon Store back in early December: <a href="/nikon-camera-forum/00dcYa">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00dcYa</a>

 

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<p><br /> Get one while supply lasts ;-) It says "limited time" - I read somewhere else that the deal runs until Feb. 10.</p>

<p>Well, timing is everything. The huge difference between last December and now is that Nikon has announced the D500. While the D500 is more advanced, there is more competition within Nikon between the D500 and D7200. Meanwhile, the Canon 7D Mark II fire sale is still on going: http://www.adorama.com/ICA7DM2Z.html</p>

<p>More competition drives down prices. It is simple. If you are price conscious, I wouldn't rush and get a D500 early on.</p>

<p>The "refurbished" tag would put me off. Most likely those cameras have been returned because they were found to be faulty or maladjusted by their initial buyer. So their condition depends on the skills and equipment level of whichever Nikon service centre they were returned to. I don't believe there's any such thing as a "factory refurb". I mean, who's going to ship a broken camera back to Thailand, Japan or China and put it through the assembly line again?</p>

<p>I recently had a D7200 with a faulty shutter supposedly repaired under warranty and returned to me; only to have the exact same fault show up after a few dozen test shots. This and other experiences have left my esteem of repair centres at a very low ebb, and I wouldn't touch a refurbished camera at any price. The faulty camera was eventually replaced with a new one BTW, and it's probably on sale as a refurb job right now.</p>

<p>Genuinely used equipment is a different matter, since if it shows signs of wear it must have given satisfactory service to its former owner or seller for a while, and if not too old is likely at the flat part of its "bathtub curve". Whereas refurbished cameras were almost certainly faulty straight out of the box, with who knows what wrong with them. As ever it's a case of caveat emptor.</p>

 

<p>Actually, the more cynical side of me is wondering whether Nikon is pushing out some new D7200 as refurbished. The D7200 has been out for almost a year and is not that drastically different from the earlier D7100. After the D500 announcement, I would imagine that new D7200 sales is going to tank.</p>

<p>A few years ago, once a friend of mine ordered a refurbished 70-300mm AF-S VR from B&H. That lens is completely non functional. The manual focus ring and AF didn't work at all, and when you shoke that lens a bit, it rattles such that clearly some screw was loose inside. If one goes for this deal, I would test that refurb D7200 very thoroughly within the first few days. I understand you can return it to Adorama within 30 days and get a full refund. As long as you check it out carefully, your risk is minimal.</p>

<p>I have bought several refurbished cameras (D300, D7100) and lenses and have not had an issue. They can be cameras that were purchased new and returned to the dealer for any number of reasons. They could have been returned only because the purchaser changed they're mind.<br /> "I don't believe there's any such thing as a "factory refurb"."<br /> I think you're wrong there. You'd rather buy a well used camera rather than a refurb? Get real and get off your high horse.</p>

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<p><em>"...there is more competition within Nikon between the D500 and D7200..."</em></p>

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<p><em><br /></em>I dont see a competion there, the D500 is for D300 fans, the D7200 for Idontknowwhat fans^^</p>

<p>No need to be rude Alan. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.<br /> And I think you're wrong in thinking that returned but fully working cameras get sold as refurbs. Most retailers or importers simply cut their margin a bit and sell such items as "open box". For example Intro 2020, a large importer of photo gear here in the UK, runs an Ebay shop where they sell off open box or returned items at a discount. Maybe even stuff that's had minor faults fixed by their own workshop - who knows?</p>

<p>What evidence do <em>you</em> have that a refurb has gone anywhere near to the maker's factory? The D7200 is made in Thailand, and like I said there's no way that customer returns are going to be individually shipped back there and re-manufactured. The transport and re-import/customs duties would make it uneconomical for one thing. And if they're getting enough faulty returns to fill container loads, then there's something very wrong with quality control.</p>

<p>But if someone wants to take a risk and save a bit of money on a refurb that's fine too. Just as long as they go into the deal with eyes open.</p>

<p>FWIW that dollar price translates to £560 UK, and there are online retailers advertising brand new D7200s for between £30 and £80 more. That's something like a $50 to $120 saving for what is effectively a used camera - is that worth a gamble?</p>

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<p>FWIW that dollar price translates to £560 UK, and there are online retailers advertising brand new D7200s for between £30 and £80 more.</p>

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<p>£590 to £640 for a new Nikon D7200? That would be around US$900. Are we talking about gray market?</p>

<p>And yes, gray market is yet another source of competition.</p>

<p>Helen Oster from adorama has repeatedly addressed the issue of "refurbished" in this forum:<br /> <a href="/nikon-camera-forum/00W7BH">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00W7BH</a><br /> <a href="/nikon-camera-forum/00bMUW">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00bMUW</a><br /> <a href="/nikon-camera-forum/00bwZu">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00bwZu</a></p>

<p>Henry Posner from B&H has also chimed in - and confirmed what I always thought: "factory" refurbished doesn't mean the item had to go to the original point of manufacture - the respective country's authorized distributor is likely the one doing the refurbishing.<br /> <a href="/nikon-camera-forum/00cq2C">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00cq2C</a><br>

<br /> For me, "open box" or "demo" is not the same as "(factory) refurbished" - I would not expect the former two to have gone through more than an inspection at the store itself. Some stores may have their own repair facilities - and they might have given the "open box" or "demo" a going over - which might have resulted in it being labelled "refurbished" (incorrectly if the term is indeed reserved for a refurbishment at a Nikon distributor).</p>

<p>Personally, I have made good experiences with buying "refurbished" as well as buying "used".</p>

<p>Both Adorama and B&H have excellent return policy for new and refurbished Nikon products alike. If the refurbished Nikon product is (still) defective, they will pay for return shipping. I personally have returned refurb Nikon lenses to both. (In fact, in my case I have never kept one because 2 out of 2, plus another one a co-worker received, were still defective and we returned all of them.) I have reasons to believe that my experience is not typical and am willing to try it again when I have the opportunity.</p>

<p>If you are unlucky, it may cost you some time to check out the item and return it, but most likely you won't even need to pay for shipping and you will receive a full refund. Hence your risk is next to zero.</p>

<p>I've had good luck with several refurbished cameras. The most recent one I got turned out to have a bad battery that wouldn't charge. That problem had not been caught by the service center- they presumably pop in a battery that's already fully charged to check the camera. With a good replacement battery (which I had fortunately had on hand, enabling troubleshooting) the camera works perfectly.</p>

<p>Adorama and B&H, Always a first class experience.</p>

<p>Personally, I have had two of the three refurbished lenses go south on me from Nikon. One was past the three month range and I was out of luck. The second one just made it in. I hesitate to use the third. I will never buy refurbished again. I would rather buy used. I have had great results with buying used. <br>

As for the D500, I did pre order one and a grip as well. Just waiting anxiously for it. </p>

<p>Shun. There's really no such thing as "grey market" in the UK. Not to the extent that Nikon authorised service centres won't touch the stuff for any money.</p>

<p>However, since Nikon stopped doing their Worldwide Warranty - a long time back now it seems - there is an issue of no free servicing/repair under warranty if the item was bought outside of the country where it's returned for service. Honourable retailers get round this by throwing in a private service/repair arrangement or effectively insuring the product against defect for you.<br>

That's what happened in the case of my first faulty D7200, and it was (unsuccessfully) "repaired" and then replaced FOC by the retailer. Given my previous experiences with Nikon UK, I think this was probably a better arrangement, and certainly got me a much keener price on the camera than buying through the official importers who seem to take a very greedy cut for not much benefit to the customer.</p>

<p>Rodeo Joe, let's make things crystal clear:</p>

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<p>£590 to £640 for a new Nikon D7200? That would be around US$900.</p>

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<p>Those low-price Nikon D7200 are not official Nikon UK imports and therefore carry no Nikon UK warranty.</p>

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<p>Both Adorama and B&H have excellent return policy for new and refurbished Nikon products alike.</p>

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<p>B&H yes. They are super cool and excellent. They are the most upright company with super integrity. I love those guys. <br>

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Adorama is the most aweful place that I have ever dealt with when it comes to returns or help. I have a chain of emails on two different occasions regarding one return for a refund and another for an exchange. Both took over a month to resolve. All with in 2015 Who ever this person ''Red'' is down there is down there is the worst customer service rep ever. This reminds me of the yelps I meant to write regarding my own experience with them. In both cases I ended up buying the product from B&H. <br>

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Adorama also misleads on there advertising on shipping days. They mean buisness days from the day it ships which could mean weeks like in my case. <br>

B&H does not do this. Three days means three days, next day means next day. </p>

<p><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=8629779">Javier Gutierrez</a>, I had some bad experience with Adorama mail order some 25 years ago. I also used to visit their store once in a while in the 1990's, and some of their sales staffs were unfriendly. But all of that is now ancient history. My more recent experience with Adorama is pretty good, although I wish they wouldn't sponsor characters such as KR.</p>

<p>If you have any issues with Adorama, please get in touch with Helen Oster: http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=3913334<br>

She has been helpful.</p>