828 film

<p>I have 3 rolls in the box of 828 Kodachrome from the 50's. Before I remove the film and use the spools just want to make sure they have no intrinsic value</p>

<p>There are no running K14 plants now, and haven't been, my guess, K12 for many many years.</p>

<p>(And unlikely that they would be useful if they could be processed.)</p>

<p>They might have some collector value, or other non-intrinsic value.<br>

I would probably save one and use two. </p>

<p>there are instructions for developing k-14 as B&W.<br>

I am sure the same info wouild be similar or<br>

be valid for older Kodachrome.<br>

two things come to mid.<br>

the film is likely stuck to the backing paper.<br>

I would nvertigate if a collextor would buy the film if it is physicall in nice condition.<br>

using an 828 camera is another problem. sute the backing paper and spools are useful.<br>

but most decent 828 cameras have a single hole per frame.<br>

Ido not own an 828 camera but I think this is necessary to cock the shutter.<br>

( like 126) the film stock is 35mm wide but the <br />'"perfs"<br>

are in part of the frame.<br>

More power to you to use a 828 camera.</p>

 

A couple of issues that are non consequencle.

I am using Kodak bantam cameras (3 models)

 

Starting with 120 film roll while on the spool I measure the width of 35 mm film from 1 end and put 2-3 winds of electrical tape around to act as guide.

Then us appropriate cutter (razor, exactly saw, steak knife or small hack saw ) I cut it while on roll. I you cut from right end the numbers will be at

proper interval for window. The hole in the film is to keep you from over winding so just use the window conscienciously. It does not cock the shutter

on these models. You can do this in subdued light with no seepage.

 

Now you go in dark room and just unroll the cut portion and reroll on 828 spools. Literally easy peasy in 15 minutes. You have backing paper with

lined up numbers in back window. I do it at 35 mm width so I can use developing with 35 mm spools.

 

You can also drill a hole in a board to right depth and cut with saw etc off the top extending end. The only thing is you may have to settle for less than

the full length of roll. I can fully sett up bantam in less than 1/2 hour.

<p>I once practiced cutting 70mm down to the width of 120 on a paper cutter, mostly to see if I could do it. It wasn't so hard to do. I would reuse the backing paper.</p>

<p>I believe unperforated 35mm film isn't so hard to find, though 70mm might be easier. </p>

<p>I thought 828 was 8 exposures per roll, so it should be a lot shorter than a 120 roll. </p>

<p>There are some people buying K-14 Kodachrome for some sort of photographic purpose, but I don't see any signs of that for K-12 or earlier Kodachrome. The value of this film is the spools. (828 spools are pretty fragile.)</p>

<p>I did manage to buy a 100 foot spool of Portra 160NC in 35mm unperforated several years ago, I believe on Estar base. It was one of the "school portrait camera" sizes, along with unperforated 46mm and 70mm film. All are totally obsolete, Kodak isn't making any film in those sizes any more.<br>

As Donald says, the way to go now is cutting down 120 film. Right thickness, and fresh backing paper.</p>

<p>I can squeeze 11 to 12 shots out of this method. Additionally I have used the remaining for the Kiev Vega 9 mm which is fun and for 110 cameras. The 110 is a little labor intensive. The problem is that now I have started to process (or try to process) my own I am stymied on how to mount on a reel to immerse in tank.<br /> I used to cut the 120 in half which gave me 2 rolls of 33-34 mm which was an ok format but again they would not fit on reel and I loose the correlation of numbers on backing paper. I also do this for 127 and play with brownies and a rather unique Italian camera and 126 cartridge which is 35 mm but again labor intensive to cut notches in the dark room.<br /> But cutting on the spool is so easy, you start your cut and it follows groove. I do it while watching TV with no apparent light leaage.</p>

<p>Also, I was reading that Kodachrome can be cross processed as C41 that produces a negative with pastel qualities but I have no intention of using 50 year old film. I just wanted to make sure there was not a small but fanatical group of collectors who would think it had significant value before I ruined the rather pristine condition.</p>

<p>Kentucky Fried Chicken of all people extended this film size's demise by a few years. In the 1970's they gave away what labs called "chicken cameras" in 828 format. I worked in a large foto-finishing plant c 1980 and 828 / C41, would still find it's way in for processing/printing. The frames were larger than 35mm's 24x36mm size at 28x40mm. Some of the Bantams and Pony's had decent lenses but the sprocketless film had it's issues cheaper cameras.</p>

<p>I couldn't do it. It's one of those things where there will be a market. </p>