New Canon 7D mk II (spec leaked)

According to PopPhoto.com, the lever around the joystick is for quick area focus selection. They say it has two media slots:

1 CF, 1 SD. Price is set at $1,800 (same as 7D at introduction time). Has anyone read anything about the viewfinder? The

PopPhoto note says it has interchangeable focusing screens, which I doubt are compatible with the active viewfinder of

the current 7D (at least no other Canon camera has both so far, but there is always a time for a first).

<p>It's all true.</p>

<p>I've just my first e-flyer from WEX here in the UK, for £1600.</p>

<p>I'm a dedicated Nikon user, but if they don't step-up soon, I might have to reconsider.</p>

<p>Looks like the leak was pretty accurate.</p>

 

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<p>Memory Type: CF Cards (Type I); Compatible with UDMA CD cards; SD, SDHC, and SDXC Memory Cards</p>

 

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<p>I guess that means it has dual card slots, one CF, one SD? But no indication that it uses the UHS interface for SD cards.</p>

<p>...Nevermind, I should have looked at the press release.</p>

 

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<p>The EOS 7D Mark II camera features dual card slots for SD/SDHC/SDXC and CF memory cards, including Ultra High Speed (UHS-1) SD cards.</p>

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<p>"Personally I was hoping for another one of those rebels with the 18 mp sensor."</p>

<p>Bummer. My T2i backup hit the 18-mp plateau years ago, and nothing much ever changed in terms of image quality after that, at least not that I could see.</p>

<p>--Lannie</p>

<p>What counts is if they've improved the dynamic range, and noise figures, not a laundry list of toy like bells & whistles.</p>

<p>Improved AF is unimportant compared to the "all-important" dynamic range? I would have thought excellent AF and low noise at high ISOs are the most important features for this camera? I am assuming the noise at high ISO will be better than the original as it's a new sensor for a 7D.</p>

<p>The original (now 5-year-old design) of the 7D had rather nice low noise capabilties, even up to ISO 3200. This fresh, new 7D MkII specs read astoundingly (almost science-fiction-sounding were it published say just 10-11 years ago in the era of the 10D) excellent indeed.<br>

Cheers Canon, thanks!</p>

<p>"Improved AF is unimportant compared to the "all-important" dynamic range?"<br>

Well yes, not to put to fine a point on it Robin. For me dynamic range trumps AF, but noise is equally important. I suppose for different types of photography AF will be quite important also. I don't really consider AF to be either a bell, or whistle. While I have no problem with improved AF it's as good as I need it to be, and would much prefer improved dynamic range.</p>

<p>Bruce, I hear you, and I understand. Each have their own desires. Nothing wrong with that. And better dynamic range would certainly be welcome, but I don't think I've ever looked at my photos, or those of others and thought, "man, I wish it had more DR". On the other hand, I <strong>have</strong> often wished my 7D had better AF and less noise.</p>

<p>Mark, every time I see a burned out highlight I say I wish I had more dynamic range. If one shoots a lot at midday it's really an evident need. Of course depending on what kind of photography you do AF may be the be all to you. In my own case knowing how to focus manually AF seems pretty good right now. ;) Bruce</p>

<p>My eyes aren't quite good enough for manual focus, Bruce. So yes, I do depend on AF heavily. And I can see why you would want more DR for midday. But if the 7DII doesn't have more DR, I would consider it only one small checkbox left unchecked in a feature-rich sea of those that are checked.</p>

<p>Yeah Mark, I can appreciate what you're saying because my eyes are not what they once were either. Well, I'm just hoping they bring the dynamic range up a bit because that's the only issue I can presently see that would keep the 7Dmkll from being a dream camera. Canon has been trailing Nikon in dynamic range for a while now, and it's the last remaining issue to keep me from jumping the Nikon ship.</p>

Canon shooters envy nikon'DR and nikon shooters envy canon's AF. I own d800e and 5Dmk3 and i know exactly the

limitation of both cameras. I decided to use two systems since neither of them can satisfy my needs. Nikon is

conservative with15 crosstypes AF points from D3 to the latest D4s. I hate it. A week ago I did a modeling shoot and

how i missed (no kidding) 90% of the subject eyes under shade or dim indoor light. D800e sucks big time. Where in this

situation i get more consistent / better accuracy with my canon 5dmk3.

 

7dmk3 is a cropped sensor camera so dont expect a good DR performance. 7dmk3 is designed for speed and af

accuracy. Else, for me, is a bonus.

<p>The D810 is more consistent in terms of autofocus accuracy in dim light with fast primes (f/1.4) than the D800/E; the designed corrected the wavelength dependent focus error in hardware when developing the camera (it also uses more advanced algorithms). I do agree with Edward that it would be helpful to have more cross type points (as provided in the 7D Mk II) even though it is possible to use linear points effectively with some practice. </p>

<p><em>> 7dmk3 is a cropped sensor camera </em><br>

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Maybe in the year 2018 it is.</p>

<p>Ken, LOL, good catch.</p>

<p>I don't think a cropped sensor necessarily means poor dynamic range. I had good dynamic range on both my D300, and D7000. My D610 has perhaps slightly better but nothing dramatic. I once had the Canon 40D which I loved, but for it's very limited dynamic range.</p>

<p>LOL. I meant 7Dmk2.<br>

Bruce, It's not poor. I think it's in good enough level. If good enough doesn't meet your expectation, you should go at least consider going full frame or jumping ship to medium format.<br>

Ikka, my D800e is practically a landscape camera. Not an all-around camera anymore. The only way to get pinpoint accuracy is focusing through magnified live view, manually.</p>

 

<p>So Edward I'm guessing you don't think Canon has done much to improve sensor performance beyond AF? If not, as the Sharks say "I'm out" ;)</p>

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<p><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=729251">Edward Chen</a> , Sep 17, 2014; 12:28 p.m. Canon shooters envy nikon'DR and nikon shooters envy canon's AF</p>

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<p>They don't envy Canon AF in the crop-sensor market. I've been invested in both camps and never seen D300 owners moan as much as 7D owners about their autofocus.<br>

In the action shooter's market, DR advantage seems only limited though.</p>

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<p>Canon shooters envy nikon'DR and nikon shooters envy canon's AF</p>

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<p><br /> I've never encountered camera "envy" in the professional world. I suspect this is more an issue with camera owners than photographers. It's more important to shoot than to sit around thinking about cameras you don't own.</p>

<p>Makes you wonder why we can't have the 'Best-of-both-Worlds'?</p>

<p>I'm curious what the bottleneck is for <em><strong>either</strong> </em>party? Nikon's Good* Pic, OK AF---Slow Speed. Canon's Poor* Pic, Good AF---Fast Speed?</p>

<p>Oddly, the tech doesn't seem to be incompatable....it's not as if someones trying to put race-car tyres on a speed boat!</p>

<p>*NB I'm using relative terms not absolute ones.</p>

<p>The real advantage of Nikon's IQ is the Sony Exmor sensor which so far is unbeatable. If Canon can't produce a sensor of equal quality why don't they farm it out to Sony, or someone who can. Toshiba makes a fine sensor as witnessed by the Nikon D7100, and D5200. Why does Canon stubbornly insist on making their own sensors?</p>

<p>I've never met anyone who lost a paying gig or didn't get a show because they used the "wrong" sensor. Of course, I've never seen anyone who really cared except on web forums.</p>