8X10 sheet film reel on kickstarter

<p>Not sure what the rule is about kickstarter postings - but here it is:<br>

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2102598013/cl81-a-low-cost-solution-for-8x10-sheet-film-proce</p>

 

<p>Sure looks like a lot more work than processing 8x10 in trays. More equipment involved. For those who like this stuff it may be a good way to go but I won't give up the old tried and true tray processing any time soon.</p>

<p>Very interesting construction!</p>

<p>I have a 3005 Jobo Expert setup so don't need this reel setup. I've also had issues with consistency around the edges of 4x5 in the equivalent jobo 2509 reels / drums but I have to say I'd go 3 sheets in a drum vs 3 sheets in a tray any day. I always had issues with scratches and extra edge development with trays - not to mention spending 20min in the dark, vs 2 min.<br>

The CPE processors which suit the smaller drums are a few hundred vs a few thousand for the CPP processors required for the expert drums, not to mention the massive size difference.</p>

<p>is there something like this already out there for 4x5?</p>

<p>Good Question. I feel this may work better with 4x5. Loading these large 8x10 sheets in the dark without damaging the film can be a challenge. But its interesting nevertheless. Especially if its saving chemicals. </p>

<p>There is a "how to load" demo video half way down the page.</p>

<i>"is there something like this already out there for 4x5?"</i><br><a href="http://www.mod54.com/">There is a film holder that fits Paterson daylight tanks for 4x5", yes</a>. Has been for quite a while, so it's clear where the idea came from.

<p>This looks like trouble waiting to happen to me, 8X10 film is stiff. I have done my share of flat tray processing of film and don't recommend it for beginners since uniform agitation gets more difficult with more sheets, as does the potential for scratching. <br>

Try getting some stainless steel cut sheet film holders for vertical tanks from EBAY, they were made for the task. You can make tanks by cutting the top out of a "slimline fridge jug" holds a little over 1 gallon, they sell for $10.00 ea and at 3" wide can accommodate at least 6 sheet film holders.<br>

Large sheet film developing requires pre-wetting to reduce streaking and careful attention to hanger handling technique.<br>

The best choice in my book is to find a custom lab that has a "dip and dunk" processor, they all use hanger type film holders. </p>

<p>Good luck with:<br /> 1. 1 gallon for 6 sheets (1 gallon= just under 4 Liters!!)<br /> 2. 8X10 hangers- about 15-20 a piece on Ebay - at best 75$ for 6<br /> 3. Work in TOTAL darkness<br /> 4. Spend your time "building a custom lab for dip and dunk"<br /> OR:<br /> 1. use the min needed per sheet of 8X10 - 200ml of active material (or less depending on your developer), one shot or replenished. You can pre wet if you want, regardless of the processing system.<br /> 2. Work in FULL DAYLIGHT<br /> 3. Nothing to build<br /> 4. Start processing right away and have fun... :)</p>

"Good luck"???<br>People have been doing that for many decades, Kri, without it being such a pain in the rear that the idea of risking images in contraptions like the one advertised now ever arose.<br>Hm...

<p>As a committed user of Jobo rotary processors, this seems like a really useful addition to the possibilities. Part of the reason I've never really considered moving from 4x5 to 8x10 was precisely because I couldn't process such film in the Jobo. Until now, that is!!! 8x10 sheets of Velvia might just be more 'image' than I can handle...</p>

Jobo Expert Drum 3005, Gerard?

<p>Q.G. Sorry I've not looked at this for a while - No expert drums for me (I hear they are great). I'm using an ATL 1500, and the 2500 series tanks. I'm not sure if the expert drums can work in the ATL 1500. I'll wait to see how well the Kickstarter thing works, but if it does, as I say, 8x10 E-6 or C-41 f.x. I doubt that's possible in a tray.</p>

<p>So how much does it cost to bang out a couple of custom end-cheeks on a 3D printer and glue 'em onto a piece of PVC plumbing pipe?</p>

Too much, RJ. You can get ready-made and well-made PVC end caps for PVC plumbing pipes and good PVC glue for little money in the same store, same department, where you get a piece of PVC plumbing pipe.<br>;-)<br><br>Gerard, the 3005 does not fit 1000-series ATLs, no. You need a 2000-series ATL (or one of the CPx thingies) for it.