Is this a legitime Leica luftwaffen?

<p>I have the possibility to buy this camera, what do you say? Ii doesn't look like a legitime Leica, What it would be the price of this camera?<br>

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<p>Absolutely not a Leica. Leitz never delivered lens caps with a swastika either. This must be one of the rather poorly made russian fakes. No idea about the price.<br>

Lex</p>

<p>I've used Leicas for 60 years, and this doesn't come close to resembling any Leica I ever saw or heard of.</p>

<p>No!</p>

<p>Not a Leica! 0 dollars.</p>

<p>Stay away! Run!--even to a non-Leica expert--that looks REALLY fake!</p>

<p>It is a FED-2, a silly camera to try to make look like a Leica. Whoever did this at least should have started with a FED-1 a camera that has a passing resemblance to a Leica II</p>

<p>Concerning that this camera is made from aluminium and brass, it has a certain value if you sell it to a junkyard. </p>

<p>This is the poorest fake that I have seen so far.</p>

<p>No, you are right, it's not a real Leica. It is a Russian camera with an internal design based on a 1932 Leica, and was made in the late 1950's, early 1960's. <br>

If it is a good inexpensive price to you, and you want a Leica, buy it. It is a bit of fake history, and it probably works. Don't pay much. If you GOOGLE Fed II, you will see where it came from.</p>

<p>It is such a poor fake that it is interesting as such! Given the low prices of many of the less rare screw mount Leica models in user condition, why not buy a real Leica? The first thing to do is to read up on them to better distinguish the real from the fake and to be familiar with their current prices.</p>

Another Soviet Leica spin off that has been turned into a fake Leica. These things have niche following as funny works of

art. You should not pay more than a few dollars for this masterpiece.

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<p >These are the most perverted cameras of our times: made in Soviet Russia copy of a German camera, faked back to look like a Nazi German camera . Don't buy it, spend your money on ice cream.</p>

<p>I have to agree with all of the previous comments. </p>

<p>-Cheers</p>

<p>As John Robison said, this is the wrong USSR-made camera to be turned into a "Leica". It resembles nothing that came from E. Leitz.</p>

<p>Not even close to being any kind of Leica. As a fake this one gets an "F" grade. Some so called Luftwaffe Leicas are very close in appearance to the real item, so caution and an expert examination is in order if there is a real question. Remeber that the actual Leica item is now aged 70+. An interesting collection could be made of fake Luftwaffe/Nazi era Leica military cameras.</p>

<p>There are a number of people, of whom I might even be one, who are fascinated by the permutations the ex-Soviet fakers go through.<br>

However, this one is sooo crude. Even the stencil (the best part of it) is not done well. See the beautiful and weird cameras at http://www.cameraquest.com/fakerusk.htm </p>

<p>My guess is that someone was teaching someone how to fake it, and didn't want to waste a potential 'seller' body in the process. </p>

 

<p>Now the Strap lugs look like something similar to those on a....</p>

<p>Probably the most successful (and expensive to produce) Leica copy was a Chinese copy of the M5 which was called something else (Red Flag?) and the desire of Chairman Mao's wife. They made a number of them (I think really only about 200, at a unit cost of $6000 in the early 1970s) and she summoned the best Chinese mechanical and optical workers to make it. Examples are probably now worth mucho greenbacks.</p>

<p>More disturbing than the butchered camera is the disgusting lust people have for Nazi paraphernalia. I don't think that buying/selling Nazi items should be banned but I find it as repugnant as buying gold teeth from their victims.</p>

<p>Leica never sold any Leica I odr Leica II to the german government. All Leicas sold to the german government were Leica III (with minor variations), so all "Luftwaffe", "Kriegsmarine" etc. Leicas should have a slow-speed dial. If such a camera has NO slow speed dial it is a fake. All soviet pre-war Leica imitations did not have a slow speed dial so can easily tell right from wrong. (There were a few soviet prototypes with slow speed dial but these have their own collectors value and re-engraving them would rather yield a lower value.)<br>

BTW there are even post-war government Leica fakes. I once read about a camera with an engraving "Bundeskriminalpolizeiamt" (Federal Crime Investigation Office). Well, there is such an organization in Germany but its name is "Bundeskriminalamt" and does not have any "Polizei" (police) designator in its name....</p>