7D Vs 5D II

<p dir="LTR">I have an opportunity to exchange my Canon 7D plus some money with Canon 5D II. Aside of money, and for folks they have used both cameras, do you prefer this barter?. I already have 5D and I feel it is much better than 7D from image quality side. </p>

<p>As always it often comes down to the type of shooting you do. I have both cameras and I strongly favor the 5DII for what I do. At home I mostly do landscapes, flowers, things... so I don't need the faster frame rate and I tend to do very simple focusing so don't need the improved system on the 7D. </p>

<p>I originally was going to take both when I travelled but have not done so and find that I still go with the 5DII even though I take a lot of market and candid people shots. I am not a pixel peeper but when I do process the photos in LR I seem to have more leeway in sharpening etc. with the 5D... YMMV but if you already like the 5D over your 7D you will certainly enjoy the 5DII even more so.</p>

<p>I owned the 7D and the 5D MkII and now have the MkIII along with the 7D. When I had the MkII, I used the 7D for wildlife and birds and the MkII for everything else, including landscapes, portraits, travel and family.</p>

<p>If you already own a number of EF-S lenses or crop-sensor lenses, then that should influence your decision. My lens line up is 15mm fisheye, 24-105mm zoom, 70-200mm zoom and 500/f4.</p>

<p>I almost always carry an APS-C and a 35mm-sensor camera. I got a 50D instead of a 7D, but if I had the latter, I'd certainly keep it. I bought a new 5Dii just as they were introducing the mark iii, and passed on my 5D (i) to my daughter. We're both pleased.<br>

I don't agree on the image quality side of "full-frame" over APS-C, but everyone has their own expectations and views.</p>

<p>Is the 5DII new or used? I recently rented the II along with the 24-105 to test it under wedding conditions supplementing my 2 7Ds. I liked it very much, mostly for wide angle use and it's slightly better noise response and resolution. I had little trouble focusing, center point, even on a dark dance floor. I would gladly trade even-up a 7D for a used 5DII as I believe, for my uses(anything, anytime, anywhere), the technical advantages of the 7D are at least equal to those of the 5DII. I'd trade and probably add a few hundred dollars for a new or refurbed II. Your preferences may be different. I agree with JDM that, for me, anyway, a mixed format kit would be an advantage.</p>

<p>The 5D MkII and MkIII are both clearly superior to the 7D at ISOs of 1600 and higher. I say that from my own experience, but you can compare on DPReview if you want to see proof.</p>

<p>The AF on the 7D is superior to the 5D2 for speed and accuracy, but the 5D3 blows them both in the weeds for AF performance, manhandling super-telephoto lenses and tracking moving subjects much better. Unless you shoot sports and wildlife, that is likely not too important to you.</p>

<p>Thank you all for your attention and response.<br /> <strong>Jeff</strong>.. Most reviewer said that II has a more sharpness compare to 7D.<br /> <strong>David</strong>.. All the lens I have are for full frame: 17-40/ f4 L + 70-200/ f4 L + 28-105/ f3.5 .<br /> <strong>JDM</strong>.. I still have my old Canon 20D as APS-C .<br /> <strong>Phil</strong>.. Both of them are used, 7D almost new but 5DII in a very good condition sure it is not refurbished.<br /> <strong>David</strong>.. Mostly I like to shoot Flowers and Nature.</p>

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<p>Museeb, since you're set up for full-frame, stick with full-frame.</p>

<p>I still have my 20D and use it all the time for stuff for the web, but finally decided I needed more pixels for my newer and fancier telephoto lenses, hence the 50D, which was sort of the last of the xxDs to have the older, solid body and such.</p>

<p>I own both and have done since they were launched. &d is a good camera but I prefer the 5DII for everything except sports and fast action. 5DII IQ is better than the 7D IQ - even at low ISO. At high ISo the 5DII is probably 2 stops better.</p>

<p>If I understand correctly, you have a 20D; a 7D and a 5D.<br>

Perhaps you are not asking the best question: if I were in your position I would ask myself:<br>

"what is the best camera kit for me?"<br>

a) (20D) + 5D + 5DMkII<br>

b) (20D) + 7D + 5DMkII</p>

<p>I understand that this 'opportunity' has arisen whereby you can trade the 7D for a 5DMkII - but have you questioned how much of an 'opportunity' it actually is, for you.<br>

In broad terms and for generalist Photography, I see more value and more versatility in having a 7D and a 5DMkII, than having a 5D and a 5DMkII.<br>

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If you haven't already, I think you need to evaluate how much of an "opportunity" this actually is - and the answer to that question will predominately lay in <strong><em>how often you use the 7D</em></strong> and moreover, when you use the 7D - <em><strong>WHY do you CHOOSE to use the 7D and not the 5D</strong></em>.</p>

<p>WW</p>

 

<p>I went from a 7d to a 5dII and never looked back for a second.<br>

The biggest weakness of the 5dII according to many is focusing, and while I think the complaints are a bit overrated, one can mitigate this situation by relying on a very capable center point, which does a fine job in most circumstances.</p>

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<p>I owned both cameras for a while. The 7D is a fine camera and produces nice images, but I found the 5DII's image quality to be noticeably superior. I've written about this before, so I'm not going to bother to type the details. Your mileage may vary.</p>

<p><strong>William</strong>... you are right I have 20D; a 7D and a 5D, and the option I have is to trade 7D for a 5DII and not 5D for a 5DII. I always prefer to use 5D and what I want to know if 5DII represent a qualitative shift compared to 5D. best regards</p>

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<p><strong>Robert</strong><br>

I went from a 7d to a 5dII and never looked back for a second.</p>

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<p>I think this will be my coming decision too. best regards</p>

 

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<p><strong>Dan</strong>.. Thanks a lot.</p>

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<p>"what I want to know if 5DII represent a qualitative shift compared to 5D"</p>

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<p>It was not clear at all to me that, that was the question you were asking.<br>

My answer to that question is unequivocal: yes.<br>

I've put through over 50,000 frames on my 5D and I am up to about 20,000 on my 5DMkII and there is clearly a qualitative difference.<br>

The main benefits to me are that, the MkII is worth at least 1 maybe 1 1/2 stops at the mid to higher end ISO and that the live view focussing is great.</p>

<p>WW<br>

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<p>I have both the 7D and 5D II and find I much prefer shooting with the 7D, due to vastly superior AF. The 5D II focuses tolerably well if you only use the center AF point, but is frustrating when using the other AF points with anything but contrasty scenes in bright light. Most of my shooting is at weddings and other indoor events, so your results and priorities will probably be different.</p>

<p>But as much as I prefer shooting with the 7D, the 5D II produces better results, so that's what I use most when people are paying for images. Truth is I don't find a great deal of difference, but there is enough to notice. Resolution is better since it is using all of the image circle from my lenses, and high ISO noise is a little better too. But if I'm shooting for myself, I go for the 7D every time.</p>

<p dir="LTR">Dear <strong>William</strong></p>

<p dir="LTR">Sorry about my English and thanks for your interest. In fact I am not much satisfied with my 7D that is why I wanted to explore some other opinions about it. In most cases I found 7D deliver a good captures in a high shutter speed or with IS lens, maybe due to its very high pixel density.</p>

<p dir="LTR">What I meant by "qualitative shift" that if 5DII can deliver a much better image quality than 7d since their production in a time close to some.</p>

<p dir="LTR">As to compare 7D vs 5D, I found that the image colors in RAW for 5D lack the colors from 7D, but after few steps of editing the image of 5D got something very natural and very beautiful. this means that they have a very close color depth. For a JPG the noise reduction already done by 5D dose not affecting at all the image quality, that is why the image still stand to do more sharpness. Another important point, 5D has a very nice logarithmic transition between different tones just like exposure transition in the toe and shoulder regions in film characteristics as well as the good balance between contrast and resolution. I hope I am clear now.</p>

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<p dir="LTR"><strong>Jim.. </strong>Truth is I don't find a great deal of difference, but there is enough to notice.</p>

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<p dir="LTR">This is exactly what I feel.</p>

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<p dir="LTR">Now I checked the rating of my last three uploaded photo, form ( 20D, 7D, 5D ), the winner is from 7D!.</p>

<p>Museeb, your English is not perfect, but fine for these communications.</p>

<p>The color depth of my 5D MkII files is superior to my 7D files. I have thousands of each. If you want the maximize color depth and end up with a color balance and contrast that pleases you, then you need to be shooting in Raw and doing Raw conversion with one of the many programs available for that. Digital Photo Professional (which comes with Canon EOS cameras) is an excellent Raw conversion software, but most of us use something else, like Lightroom, because DPP is a little clunkier to use.</p>

<p>When you don't shoot in Raw and allow the camera to do the in-camera JPEG conversion, you're at the mercy of what some engineer or group of engineers in Japan decided was best. On most Consumer cameras, you have the choice of Landscape, Portrait, Natural, etc., which is merely a choice of options to convert the Raw file to a JPEG with certain adjustments applied to suit the engineer. These conversion choices are not the same from camera to camera. To get what you prefer, you must do the conversion yourself.</p>

<p>Your lenses are suited to full-frame. I'd stick with full-frame if I were you.</p>

<p><strong>David</strong>.. I would like to thank you for your following up the discussion and supporting.<br /> Most of my captures are in RAW format unless a have a limited space of memory. For the lenses I forgot to mention the stranded one 50mm/f1.8 I have and intending to add 24-105/f4 L but not soon.</p>

<p>Considering all that you have stated about your uses and observations of the 5D, I think that you will be more than satisfied with exchanging your 7D the 5DMkII which is superior to the 5D. <br>

No need at all for you to be sorry for the miscommunication.</p>

<p>WW</p>

 

<p>Another vote for YES - do the trade in and get the 5DII.</p>

<p dir="LTR">I have made the exchange because I am very tuned about this matter.</p>

<p dir="LTR">Just to make a real comparison between them, I have captured two photos ( same lens, same ISO, same aperture, no tripod, about 3m distance, and I did my best to make each capture as close to other ), this is the result.</p>

<p dir="LTR">Again Thanks to all of you.</p><div></div>