misty_bronstine Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 I recently got a new cannon dslr I have been using Pentax for years and still use it. But when I take the card out of the cannon and put it into my Pentax the pics are blurry. Why is this? The cannon takes good pics but my Pentax does alot more editing and better quality editing so I like to use the Pentax for editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogears Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>You should not put a card from one camera into another. There is nice free software such as Picasa which can edit pictures from (almost) all cameras.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>I'm a little confused: are you using the Pentax camera to <em>edit</em> image files from your Canon camera? Why would you do this? The Pentax camera, while certainly able to read JPG image files, is not an image editing tool. I would recommend you use your computer or a photo shop kiosk to edit your images.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 I have a expensive photo shop on my computer but don't like using it. It takes more time than I got. My Pentax is high end and does alot of very cool editing. What I do is hand off the card to the customer when I'm done shooting and it's hooked to my iPad and edited right there the way they want it. So I was hoping I could use the cannon also. My question was just simply a question out of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>If you do your editing on the iPad why are you putting the card from your Canon in the Pentax camera?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 No the i pad is used simply as a bigger screen for there viewing still use editing from Pentax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgust Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Just to make sure I understand correctly, your a professional photographer who up until recently used a Pentax camera for your work and did basic editing in camera before uploading your images to your iPad for further editing with you client there giving input. Now you have a Canon dSLR and have been using it for image capture and then putting the SD card into the Pentax for your pre-iPad editing.<br> I agree with Les, you shouldn't be swapping cameras with your memory cards like you are. Every camera maker has their own formatting that often isn't compatible with other companies cameras. Why the images are blurry is a mystery to me. Do the images seem blurry on a monitor? Or is it just on the Canon's screen?<br> I can't see the in-camera editing being faster or better than what you can do with Photoshop. Seems to me you just need to spend some time learning to use your software. If Photoshop seems too complicated then maybe you should use a simpler program as Les stated.<br> What sort of images do you sell? What specifically are the editing tasks that you rather do in camera than on a computer?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgust Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Sorry, didn't see Rob's question till after I posted. So you don't do any editing other than on the Pentax normally?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sirota1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>I would guess that the photos are blurry because the Canon includes multiple thumbnails, one full size and one reduced size, and the Pentax is pulling up the small one instead of the full size one. Just a guess.</p> <p>I agree with everyone else -- the workflow is goofy at best.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmanuk Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Welcome to photo net Misty. Hope you stay around and get all the help you need regards miken</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Ok first of all I am not and have not stated I am a pro photographer. I do this for fun and make a little money on the side cause I have a full time job. I do senior pics and some small business pics for advertising and an occasional wedding and I did go to school many years ago for it but am not by no means a pro. I give them the card after I edit it and its done. I don't make them buy packages or pics they pay me for my time and the card is all. And you can say it's goofy but I don't care it's how I do it and once again the iPad is only being used as a large screen for them to view them on cause its pic quality is amazing. And I simply asked cause I have 2 Pentax camera and I switch cards between them and it's fine. So I know nothing about cannons cause I haven't used one since we used film lol. I only got it cause it was an amazing deal and thought my daughter could learn on it is all. And I am smart enough to use photo shop just don't like it. It is very time consuming and as I stated above I have a full time job also and thank you Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbergbarry Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Remember that cards do fail. <br> If you are doing this for money, even on the side, I would hate to think what would happen if you are shooting a wedding and the card that you are doing the editing on fails. Or if the client loses their card and asks for a replacement card (which will happen)?<br> If I was you, I would seriously considering looking at a real workflow that includes backups. It is not difficult and there are other tools out there that are easier to use than Photoshop. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_simpson1 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>I think Mark Sirota has nailed it. This <a href="http://www.media.mit.edu/pia/Research/deepview/exif.html">link</a> describes the standard EXIF format, which contains a small thumbnail. A Pentax camera would understand EXIF; even if it couldn't parse the Canon-specific full image, it could display the thumbnail.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_deerfield Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>In other words, the Pentax simply isn't going to recognize the Canon JPEG. So you either continue to use your Pentax or develop a different workflow for the Canon. For what it's worth, I see this all the time. We have different shooters and you simply can't take the memory card out of one camera, put it into a different brand of camera, hit play and expect to see the image. Memory cards should be formatted in the camera that will be using them and you should try to avoid unnecessary swapping of cards between cameras even if formatting the card each time. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>You're simply asking for problems to mix two different camera platforms.<br> You don't have to use Photoshop, but you need something other than doing it this way.<br> The Pentax is not going to play well with cards formatted for the Canon (NOT "cannon" which is a big gun), or vice versa and I suspect Mark does have the problem at least in his sights.</p> <p>I'm thinking that if this is how you want to work, you should have bought another higher-end Pentax. It's another matter altogether to swap between two of the same brand of camera, although even that can sometimes cause problems.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click_click Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Maybe the algorithms in computer terms is totally incompatible so the resolution of the pentax is lower therefore causing a downgrade of the image which results in pixel stretching causing blur.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Thanks to all that was helpful even though most of ya wanted to criticize instead of just answering the question. I will just let my daughter have this camera. I have 2 Pentax and am more than happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogears Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 <p>Can't find any criticism in this thread, just good solid advice.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattler123 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 <p>This is the craziest workflow I have ever come across. Who edits their pics in-camera? And to top it off uses a camera from a different manufacturer. When I read the question I honestly thought someone was pulling our leg and making fun of us. I am still not convinced that's not the case.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 <blockquote> <p>"Who edits their pics in-camera?"</p> </blockquote> <p>First of all, this is the beginner forum. Expectations are different and we ask for as much patience as you can muster. If the question seems odd or doesn't interest you, it's okay if you don't want to reply.</p> <p>That said...<br> Lots of P&S and some mirrorless cameras offer in-camera, post-exposure editing. Nothing unusual. Manufacturers added it because some folks like it.</p> <p>It just makes an extra copy of the photo on the media card. It doesn't overwrite the original raw or JPEG. Not sure about the video modes, haven't tried mine much.</p> <p>I've used those in-camera, post-shot editing tools only a couple of times, but I can see how it would be handy for printing straight from the camera or media card at an event with a portable printer, or at a DIY kiosk soon after an event. Some DIY kiosks may have a sluggish or non-intuitive interface, so if you're familiar with your camera's internal post-shot editing features it may actually go more quickly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 <blockquote> <p>I recently got a new cannon dslr I have been using Pentax for years and still use it. <strong>But when I take the card out of the cannon and put it into my Pentax the pics are blurry.</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>I have never been able to take an SD card that is formatted by my Pentax K100D and put it into another brand digital camera without that said camera forcing an initialization routine which basically wipes the data clean.</p> <p>You are stating that your Canon images written to its Canon formatted SD card are showing up blurry when inserting the Canon SD card into your Pentax digital camera and viewing them from the Pentax camera's small LCD preview system. </p> <p>If this is what you've indicated I'm surprised you're even seeing an image. What you've indicated doesn't make sense. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 <p>BTW, Misty, my Nikon V1 can read the SD media cards from my Ricoh P&S digicam and show the thumbnail photos, but can't actually do any editing of the Ricoh files. That older Ricoh P&S can't read my Nikon V1 photos.</p> <p>JPEGs are fairly standard so I can see why some camera brands may be able to show the thumbnails for photos taken with other brands. I'd be surprised if my Nikon could read the Ricoh DNG raw files, but there's no way to test that in the camera since it reads only the embedded JPEG version.</p> <p>If you can transfer the photos from the media cards (or directly from the cameras) to your iPad, that may be the easiest way to edit them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Thank you lex I guess you were the only one reading my post saying I am not a pro and that the camera was purchased cause I got it 50% off and I thought it would b good for my 16 year old daughter to learn on. And yes lex the Pentax does amazing editing and I like it. And obviously some people like it cause I've been called back to do senior pics for 2 years in a row. The question came to me cause my daughter took pics and said mom I want you to make it black n white but leave the red in. Well the higher end cannon wouldn't do it so I put the card in my Pentax to do it. And pics showed up blurry. So I asked I guess what was a stupid question to most. But hey I'm not a pro with digital photography yet and bet that they also had some stupidity when they started so thank you again lex for not criticizing and being helpful. And Les obviously you just skipped the messages where I was called lazy and stupid and a sloppy photographer. This is my hobby not my living so people get a life. It was just a simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty_bronstine Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Yes Tim it shows up but is slightly blurred and to answer the other guys question yes the Pentax megapixels are 24 and the cannon is 18. And lex I transfer them to a USB and iPad before I give the cards to customers. Apple has amazing products that pretty much make anything possible. And actually alot of my customers are amazed with the pic quality on it and ask where to buy one. And to the one asking what I'm gonna do if a cards bad or they want a new one well I carry several at all times an don't worry I have a brother that is a lawyer so I cover my but and have contracts for all customers to sign stating that they viewed the pics and was happy and I give them full copywrite to the pics and there is plenty of other stuff in there that covers me. And even so I don't screw anyone over I will redo them if they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 <blockquote> <p><em>"This is my hobby not my living </em><strong><em>so people get a life. </em></strong><em>It was just a simple question."</em></p> </blockquote> <p>Misty,<br /> Just as much as Mr Lex seems to have “intervened” and has mentioned generally that this is a beginners' forum and also has underscored that there is indeed in camera editing available and some people (includig himself) – and I’ll mention that I also me too - and also my daughter - have used these functions of camera editing . . .<br /> On the other side of the coin: it is probably time for you to drop all the side banter, too.<br /> Just my opinion on one way as to how to win friends and influence people . . .</p> <p>***</p> <p>BTW the probable reason why some folk assumed you were a "professional photographer" was because you wrote:<br /> "What I do is hand off the card <strong>to the ‘<em>customer</em>’</strong> when I'm done shooting and it's hooked to my iPad and edited right there the way they want it. So I was hoping I could use the cannon also.”<br /> And from that point it would be easy for most people to understand why comments were made about what unusual practice this would be, for most “Professional Photographers”.</p> <p>So I hope that explains a few points of why things might have been interpreted, as they were.</p> <p>WW</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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