Old 110

I found this on ebay and am wondering will if I be able to get good 5x7 or 8x10 prints made that look

pretty decent? Also..does the price seem a bit high?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Canon-110ED-20-Camera-/160945891782?pt=US_Vintage_Cameras&hash=item25791f69c6

 

Thanks!

You'd be working with a tiny negative, but if you can find the right film then that camera should certainly deliver.

 

$69 for a high-quality rangefinder with 26mm f/2 lens? I'd take it.

(double post)

Have you read <a href="http://www.photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00b38g">Rick Drawbridge's thread about (one of?) his 110 camera</a>, Lynn? The performance of 110 format is discussed there a bit.

<p>Depends on what your definition of "good" is.</p>

<p>Before purchasing this there are several things to consider.</p>

<p>#1. The camera itself, It is electronically controlled, without battery it is inoperative, can you get the battery for it. If you can, will it still work? Will the seller take it back if it does not?</p>

<p>#2. The film. Until recently 110 film was discontinued. Now it is available again but of course in limited supply. Lomography has reintroduced both conventional B&W and color negative. They are selling this film for $7.90 a roll for 24 exposure rolls. The B&W version does not use a paper backing and thus has no window in the cartridge to see the frame number, you just count how many frames you have shot. With no paper backing there is a possibility that the last 3 or 4 frames could be light struck when you remove the film cartridge after finishing the roll.</p>

<p>There is also a brand out of Japan called Fukkatsu. They are selling B&W and color negative versions. The cartridges have the conventional paper backing on both, The only place I've seen selling it is Ultrafine, but the price is very dear at $11.99 a roll. I have noted that the Four Corners Dark store is selling the color version only for $7.99 a roll. So, no matter how you look at it film is going to be expensive. If you decide to shoot B&W I'd consider doing my own processing. For color c-41, well that might turn out to be send out from a place like Wallmart with about a weeks wait.</p>

<p>So, many things to consider.</p>

<p>The film can be found on eBay easily enough. I just gave my neice my old Minolta 110 Zoom kit and she's having a blast with it. I had forgotten, until she told me, that it takes sharp close-ups too.</p>

<p>But I'd be cautious spending $69.95 on that Canon kit. It's obvious the seller knows nothing at all about it. I always think these sellers find these cameras for $5 or so somewhere. I'd rather buy from someone who had actually owned and used a camera and tells me it's in working condition. Otherwise, I'll look for a $10 eBay deal. To me, it's a gamble spending $70 on something that may end up as a display knick-knack on a shelf.</p>

<p>It would go for a good bit less in a real auction. I have the earlier model, had to take it apart and clean oil off the shutter because it was sticking. When I shot a roll with it, it was sticking again. Not an easy camera to work on, either.<br>

Yes, the battery is available.<br>

110 is a fairly disastrous format, really.<br>

Also, the camera is <em>surprisingly heavy</em>. A Olympus XA is much lighter, probably the same volume, and a <em>much</em> better camera.</p>

<p>The problem with 110 cameras is that we couldn't give them away, and now that Lomo is selling 110 film... but to be honest, the Minolta 110 cameras are very good, but $70 for this camera is way too much.</p>

<p>Personally I would buy an Olympus XA instead. Equal in nearly every way to this, nearly the same size, but uses standard 35mm film.</p>

<p>That is a lot to pay for any 110 camera but the Pentax Super auto. I have bought several 110 Minolta under water cameras and never paid more than 20.00USD for them at Goodwill local stores. No taxes, no shipping. I bought 1 Pentax Auto from a used camera guy in Utah for 60.00USD. About a month later I bought a whole kit in the box from Goodwill for 15.00USD. I just collect them but I don't use them. I like the odd ball 110s more. You can get them cheeper than 69.00.</p>

<p>The price is very high despite a fast lens and you will have to think about sourcing film as well. Rick Drawbridge's post about the Pentax 110 SLR system is excellent in demonstrating how good the camera one should bear in mind that Rick is 'excellent' at getting superb quality images from old gear. Many of us use old cameras and shoot but not all of us possess the technical veracity in getting half as good as what Rick does. <br>

If you want to get 8x10 print such a small format is just not practical. </p>

<p>I too think the price is unrealistic, but then I don't collect these. This is certainly not your average 110 camera. There's another of the same model right now for a buy-it-now price of $17 or so.<br>

As said, 110 film is fairly widely available right now.</p>

Thank you for all of the responses.

I have to work tonight so I'm not able to get into this much further until later and will read the link

above.

I remember these little cameras but I was young and didn't pay much attention to them at the

time. Does anyone know what size prints they yield?

<p>People used to try to do 8x10" prints from them. I'm not sure how successful they were, however. The 'normal' print was much smaller at the local drug store or film developing kiosk. </p>

<p><br /> "How big?" is a question that depends a lot on how picky you are. Most people using this were happy if they could just tell which one was Uncle Harry. ;)</p>

<p>This is a photo of my collection of 110 cameras all bought from Goodwill or at yard sales except the single Pentax slr which I bought by itself for 60.00USD. The rest were 15.00USD or less, some 2 to 3.00USD.</p><div></div>

<p>I cannot "see" paying more than a few dollars for any camera that is not 35mm or 120.<br>

Ok a large formay camera IF you are willing to go that way.<br>

I think all the"better" ideas in film sizes came out of a smelly fog.<br>

One exception to all this I LIKE 127. But somebody shou;ld make a reoaadable 110 or 126 card. it would not be that hard.<br>

and a 126 cart could be redisigned so the camera never knew it had bulkj loaded 35mm.<br>

An alumoinum / plastic housing and a mecananism to fool the camera to thinking there had been a proper advance.<br>

I am not a mechanical genius and I can almost thin k of it.</p>

<blockquote>There's another of the same model right now for a buy-it-now price of $17 or so.</blockquote>

<p>That one is being sold for parts, though.</p>

<p>The price looks a bit steep there. Also 110 cameras come with built in disappointment as standard. This is as others have said due to the tiny negative (a quarter of a 35 mm frame) but the film cassettes must add to the mix too. Buy it for the experience of 110 if you want to but do not expect anything wonderful.</p>

<p>from what I read the first 110 B&W films had paper backing but it was too short and would be lengthened and correcxted later on.</p>

Definitely won't be getting the one for $69. I went through some old family pictures and a good

many of them were about 3 1/2 x 5...way too little to do anything with and it sounds like getting a

5 x 7 from the 110 would even be difficult......

 

Appreciate everyone's insight and advice....I'm going to pass on the 110 format.

<p>Good point, Walter about the reloadable cartridge. The initial expense might be high, but if enough people were interested, who knows? <br>

Lynn- the best way to try 110 is if you find one cheap at a yard sale or someone gives you one. If you just want subminature there are several alternatives that use similar size film (16mm) reloaded into reloadable cassettes. Minolta, Mamiya, and Yashica made some models like that.</p>