david_christoffersson Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 <p>Hi! I'm on the lookout for a 6x6 or 6x7 rangefinder with a lens around 80-110 f/2.8.<br> It's a plus if it has a lightmeter and a coupled rangefinder.</p> <p>I've owned a Mamiya 6 with the 75/3,5 but its to short and the 150 is to long.<br> I've also had a Hasselblad with the 80/2.8 which I love, but it's to big and doesn't focus close enough<br> I recently had a Mamiya RZ67 with the 110/2.8, the lens is the perfect focal length and I love the bellow-focus, but again to big.</p> <p><br />I've been looking at the Certo Six, but I can figure out the specs.<br> <br />What are my other options?</p> <p>Thanks!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredlee70x7 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 <p>What about a Mamiya 7II with 80/4? Since you already have a Mamiya 6, you should feel at home with its bigger brother.</p> <p>I have a like-new condition set of 7II, 50/4.5, 80/4 and 150/4 for sale, in case you're interested.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin_polk Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 <p>There is also the Plaubel Makina 67 and the brand new Fuji GF670/Bessa III (which has switchable 6x6/6x7). If you're okay without a light meter, there are a number of German folding 6x6 cameras from the 1950s, as well as the Moskova copies. The Mamiya rangefinders probably have the best lenses, but they are fixed (as opposed to folding, if size is an issue). As nice as the 110 focal length is for 6x7, it seems uncommon compared to the normal 80mm.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_yves_mead Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Is f/2.8 an absolute must? The Fuji GW670 series offers 6x7 format with a fine 90mm f/3.5 lens in a surprisingly handy package, without breaking the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbright Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>Mamiya 711 would be my pick for a 6x7 rangefinder. The optics are superb.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dana_bartholomew Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>Get both> the Fuji Gf670, the new folder which allows you to switch back and forth. The camera, with ap priority if needed, takes excellent shots. It's f3.5 lens may be a half-stop slower, but you can shoot at a steady 1/15. I've got one. It has served me well. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_christoffersson Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>Thanks for your reply! The Mamiya 7 is out of the question.<br> It doesn't have to be a 2.8, it's more important how close it can focus.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_christoffersson Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>What are the German 1950's options?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondebanks Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>Lightweight, f2.8, long-normal lens...<br> I suspect you can pick any two of these properties in a 6x6/6x7 rangefinder, but not all three.</p> <p>f2.8 & long-normal lens: Mamiya Press or Universal with 100/2.8 and 6x6/6x7 back [6x9 also; Polaroid also with the Universal]<br> f2.8 and light-weight: Plaubel Makina 67 with 80/2.8 [includes lightmeter]</p> <p>How about this - Pentacon Six TL with a 120/2.8 Zeiss Jena Biometar. The body is extremely light and almost as compact as a rangefinder - it has the 35mm/rangefinder form factor, not the boxy Hasselblad shape. It's 6x6, so you can keep the weight down further with the compact WLF. The lens is of superior quality, and hits both your requirements of focal length and speed. </p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ondebanks Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 <p>BTW the 120mm Biometar focuses down to 1.3m (most lenses typically focus to 10x their focal length). But for closer focus, P6 extension tubes are only a few bucks. Rangefinders don't tend to give the option of extension tubes (the Mamiya Press is an exception, but then you lose rangefinder coupling), and close focus without parallax issues is always a problem for rangefinders. If close focus really matters to you, then SLR viewing makes sense.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_sawyer Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 <p>you are missing the boat by excluding the mamiya 7. It's easily the best of anything mentioned here.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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