jepper_jet Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 ... So ive got rid of all my lovely digit equipment and bought a rolleicord va . I want to photograph film and do my own development. Mainly color negatives and b&w. Im total newbie but what i found out is to get a tetenal colortec c41 rapid kit for developing colornegatives. The reason why? I found this lovely youtube tut on how to do it.. Only with a unicolor set which should be the same as the tetenal set. The video i belive is a good startingpoint for me. On the video the guy is actually developing a b&w film but says it cant as well be used for colornegatives. So my question is: does this set ( tetenal color tec) do both .. ofcourse with different instructions that is..? The film im planing to shoot with at first ( the one i like so far) is kodak portra, kodak ekta 100, maybe fuji 400h dont know so much.. And then im much in doubt about the b&w films.. . Really my goal is to scan them with the epson v600 or v700 and make prints as large as it is possible for my own walls. The youtube film im refering to is called " developing c-41 colorfilm at home" . Thanks again for helping out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_clayton Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 <p>I think I know the turorial that you are talking about. The B&W film being developed was a C-41 B&W film. The Tetenal kit is only for C-41 film.<br> ***Do not process a standard B&W film in C-41 chemicals, it will not work.***</p> <p>The unicolor kit is very similar to the tetenal kit, so instructions should be very similar.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monophoto Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 <p>The Tetenal kit you are looking at is for films that use the C-41 process. </p> <p>C-41 is the process used for COLOR films and for a few special black and white files such as Ilford XP-2. Standard black and white files DO NOT USE C-41.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zensphoto Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 <p>I use these <a href="http://imagepro.photography.com/index?site_id=7940&page_id=182841&preview=true">steps</a> (At the right of the page) after tweaking the instructions of Tetenal C-41 Press kit I buy from <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109267-REG/Tetenal_T109306_C_41_Press_Kit_for.html">B&H Video</a> and use the same steps for 35mm and 120/220 Medium format C-41 development. The color negatives some out perfect every time for me. I scan them on the Canon 8800F flat bed using 35mm and 120/220 templates.</p> <p>For my black and white I use these tweaked <a href="http://imagepro.photography.com/index?site_id=7940&page_id=182841&preview=true">steps</a> (At the left bottom of the page) and usually just use D-76 by Arista which I purchase from <a href="http://www.freestylephoto.biz/">Freestyle Photographic Supplies</a>.</p> <p>I use Kodak Protra and Kodak Ektar 100 with the C-41 Press Kit they look great. I have also developed some Fuji 200/400 with the C-41 Press Kit all come out looking great.</p> <p>There are other C-41 kits to buy the Unicolor kits works pretty much the same as the C-41 Press kit but the chemicals come in liquid form. The C-41 Press kit is in powder form when you get it. Everything I develop is in hand-tank and I don't have a jobo processor.</p> <p>Paul and Louie are on the money, developing B&W with C-41 chemicals really gives you a nice blank roll of film to look at. You can however develop C-41 films in black and white chemicals, but you have to develop them for a longer period of time, and the B&W chemicals are NOT going to activate the color in the film so you will be left with a black and white negative on the Orange Base. I tried this a few times just to see what they looked like.</p> <p>To really try a cross development process you could develop your C-41 using a C-41 Press Kit and then use the second developer and turn it into a Slide this works OK, but E-6 comes out a lot better using E-6 Chemicals which you aren't really asking and I just added this here for reference.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepper_jet Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 Man .. You are great! Thanks for helping me out here .now i understand a lot more allready. And duanne?.. Can i have a hot line to you when i start developing my first images next week :) Seems like you do all by hand and thats what i intent to do .. But im totally a stranger to film developing but then again i also was to photoshop, screen calibration, color management, printing ect years ago. So im gonna get there somehow ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_degroot Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 <p>I see that already that someone mentioned that REAL<br> B&W film will turn out blank in c-41 chemicals.<br> many like the Chromogenic (c-41) films.<br> But be aware that real B&W film is very different.<br> not only incompatible with c-41 chems<br> but in terms of either acceptible or outstanding results.<br> If the film is commercially processed the way c-41 is proceesed,<br> the results are usually " usable" but far from the results you may want.<br> S<br> many different developers will work,m some better than others.<br> But the suggested times are only a good starting point.<br> Your waterm agitation and other factors can make a big difference.<br> if you follow times and temps carefully you results will be good, but judging the final results<br> are up to you to learn and decide.<br> Do Not try all films and all developers.<br> work with one B&W film and developer unless there is a pressing reason to try something else.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zensphoto Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 <p>Hi Jepper,<br> I started doing the C-41 at home because I was tired of my negatives looking like crap coming back from a commercial processor. Even though C-41 maybe be considered a wash when it comes to saving money on development costs give or take a few bucks, I found C-41 color negative processing at home just as easy as developing black and white. I only use two different developers for my Black and White which is D-76 either by Kodak or Arista and HC-110 when I don't feel like developing for a long time because HC-110 in some cases is half the time than D-76. Though, I like what I see using D-76 the results are what I like to see. If you want to email me with questions please feel free to do so. I'll even take some photographs of the process if you need them. Perhaps, after I am done covering the Mayhem Festival at Blossom Music Center, in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio I put together a video of how I do C-41 Color Negative Hand Tank development. I just don't have a lot of time this week with the Festival coming up. </p> <p>Good luck on your first development process!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepper_jet Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ok ... Thanks guys a million. You help me a lot. For now im on holliday i berlin and because we dont have any stores in denmark selling chemistry anymore ive found a nice store (fotoimpex) that sold me some kodak400 tmax and some kodak d-76 to go. So now im in berlin with my fully loaded and functional rolleicord...who can ask for more.... Other than being able to develop some nice bandw!!!! Anyway duanne!! - id really like to take you up on that email to you thing when youve got the time. I sure could use some hands on tips.. Where do i get your email from ... By clicking on your name here in forum or..? Thanks . Jepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jepper_jet Posted July 24, 2012 Author Share Posted July 24, 2012 And it really would be nice if you sometime got the time to do that video for me and all other newbies to film processing. Allways shooting digital made me blind to see how important it is to keep this dicipline alive.....have a nice festival.. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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