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The Pentax K50 VS K20D


Javier Gutierre

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<p>Hi Folks,<br>

Having read a few threads on the K50, I have a few questions.<br>

How do the shutters compare as far as noise? How does the auto focus compare as far as focus speed goes? How is AFC? How do the noise levels compare? By all accounts, this camera is widely praised. I will be using it on a trip where I expect allot of rain. </p>

<p>I am also considering the 18-55WR with it. I read terrible things about the 18-135WR which is the one I really wanted until all the reviews. <br>

I had a K5llS but loaned it to my kid and never got it back :) </p>

<p>p.s. I have some of the best Nikons out there, but do not trust them in the rain. The K50 seems to be king for this for what I can tell.</p>

<p>Thanks Javier</p>

 

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<p>You can't find a better bargain out there than the K50 body if you already have Pentax lenses. I have the K-30 which is basically a K50 before cosmetic surgery and the shutter is very quiet,. Of course, no shutters are as quiet as the K3 or K5iis., they are phenomenally quiet.</p>

<p>Glad to see you setting foot in the photo.net Pentax Forum again, Javier. We missed you.</p>

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<p>Any particular reason to not trust Nikons in the rain? I don't know enough about Pentaxes, but I do know that the high-end Nikons will do as well in the rain as any of the other pro-level camera.<br>

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<p>Thanks for the response Wouter. The reason is purely feel and experience. I know that the Nikon has a ''weather-sealed body'' but Nikon says very little about it. Pentax really pushes this feature. Really, when you hold both bodies, it is obvious that the Pentax is much better sealed in my opinion. Having used my K20D in extremely bad conditions of all kinds and have seen no issues what so ever, This is my reason. So completely un scientific. Now I do realize Nikon DSLR's are used all over in the world in much worse conditions that I will be in, but again. I am looking at my own experience. Another point of consideration is that I have quite a few really good lenses for Pentax. <br>

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<p>Between the K-50 and the K20D, I'd surely choose the K-50. The K-50 is from after when Pentax had good high ISO performance, the K20D from before. The K-50 has two generations newer autofocus engine (SAFOX IX+ versus SAFOX VIII). Both have pentaprism finders.<br>

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<p>Thanks a bunch John. Good point on the high ISO and that will surely be a bonus !</p>

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<p>You can't find a better bargain out there than the K50 body if you already have Pentax lenses. I have the K-30 which is basically a K50 before cosmetic surgery and the shutter is very quiet,. Of course, no shutters are as quiet as the K3 or K5iis., they are phenomenally quiet.<br>

Glad to see you setting foot in the photo.net Pentax Forum again, Javier. We missed you.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the kind words Wayne. I have always loved this forum. By far the friendliest and most informative on photo.net as far I am concerned. The shutter is not super important to me, but Nikon's shutters are quiet and I got used to them. For the $300.00 for the K50 body, I wILL order one today.</p>

<p>Thanks Javier</p>

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I agree with Wayne: Javier, good to see you here again!

 

I wouldn't get my hopes too high on the C.AF. The 18-135 isn't supposed to be all that bad but it's not a very big quality

leap. There is a new (pricier and larger) 16-85 which should be better. Both offer relatively good DC in-lens AF motors

while the 18-55 still uses the noisier in-body motor.

 

The K-50's shutter is not as quiet as the one in the K-7/5/3 series but I guess since you've ordered it you'll find that out

soon enough!

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<p>Hi Javier, I miss you and the good old times. The other day when I saw your thread, I almost want to post the deal link for the K-3 in <a href="http://www.adorama.com/IPXK3.html">Adorama with the DA 50 f/1.8 and a simple flash</a> for $649.99. I remember that you don't like the K-5 and hence I hesitate to post my suggestion. While the K-50 is cheaper and likely the best bang for $299, I would think the K-3 will fit you better with better built body. If I were in your shoes trying to get a dependable WR body from Pentax, I will go with K-3. <br /><br />Cheers,<br>

Hin</p>

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<p>I agree with Wayne: Javier, good to see you here again!<br>

I wouldn't get my hopes too high on the C.AF. The 18-135 isn't supposed to be all that bad but it's not a very big quality leap. There is a new (pricier and larger) 16-85 which should be better. Both offer relatively good DC in-lens AF motors while the 18-55 still uses the noisier in-body motor.<br>

The K-50's shutter is not as quiet as the one in the K-7/5/3 series but I guess since you've ordered it you'll find that out soon enough!</p>

 

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<p>Thanks Andrew !<br>

Not putting much hope in AFC, I know that it is not Pentax strong point. So long as it locks focus fairly quick, with out that skip that the K20 and K-7 had, it will be good. Come to think of it, the K-5 did not have that skip. <br>

Thanks again.<br>

Javier</p>

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<p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=3766564">Hin Man</a> , Oct 06, 2015; 01:03 p.m.</p>

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<p>Hi Javier, I miss you and the good old times. The other day when I saw your thread, I almost want to post the deal link for the K-3 in <a href="http://www.adorama.com/IPXK3.html" rel="nofollow">Adorama with the DA 50 f/1.8 and a simple flash</a> for $649.99. I remember that you don't like the K-5 and hence I hesitate to post my suggestion. While the K-50 is cheaper and likely the best bang for $299, I would think the K-3 will fit you better with better built body. If I were in your shoes trying to get a dependable WR body from Pentax, I will go with K-3. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />Hin</p>

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<p>Hey Hin, How wonderfully cool to hear from you. I actually Liked my K-5, It was the K-7 I truly hated. I may still purchase a K-3. Depends on how well I like the K50. One of the main reasons I liked the K50 is because it uses the same Sony sensor that is in the D7000 that I love. <br>

Thanks a bunch, Javier</p>

 

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<p >Wayne Campbell , Oct 07, 2015; 09:22 p.m.</p>

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<p>Come on Javier, let's see some pictures or read some comments...you must have received your K50 by now!</p>

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<p>Thanks Wayne. Actually, I just got an email today from B$H that the camera shipped today. I will post some pictures next week when I get it. :)<br>

Thanks javier</p>

 

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<p>I don't think you'll miss the outside controls that much. I have the K5IIs (outside controls) and the K-30 (like the K-50, not as many outside controls) and found the K-30 liberating, almost like a point and shoot. Not having outside controls frees you up from too much fiddling around, especially useful in your style of shooting. It also has a moderately quiet shutter and feels really good in the hand. Happy shooting.</p>
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<p>I took the K50 out for a spin today. It was mostly good. The Achilles heal continues to be the Auto Focus. It feels and acts exactly as my K20D and my short lived K5lls. But I forget how good the colors and the in body shake reduction work. I batch processed these in an Old Version of Lightroom. Mostly a simple resize and a slight punch in saturation. Otherwise, they are 95% out of the camera. All were shot with the SMC 35 F/2.4. p.s. The ISO performance was a super pleasant surprise. Really good actually, IMO.<br>

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<p>You nailed it.No matter how much Pentax claims their Safox focusing is great, it always pales compared to Canon and Nikon. We like the Pentax for the vibrant saturated color, good lenses, and ergonomics, not the auto focus. I've been waiting for about 8 years for them to catch up but I don't think they ever will. I have held off buying a K-3 for this very reason, I don't want to be disappointed again. I feel bad too because we kind of nudged you toward buying the K50 with our comments.</p>
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