Lightroom 4 Beta

<p>Hum ... perhaps someone running it on a Windows box will chime in.</p>

<p>BTW / FWIW, I did try cleaning the registry and rebooting. No luck. In the grand scheme of things it's truly a minor quirk, but having both versions available so that I could quickly alt-Tab between them would have made it easier to compare them.</p>

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<p>T, could be a opportunity to switch to mac ? Lol</p>

<p>maybe its just the beta version, or maybe the 32 / 64bit thing.. worth to try.</p>

<p>Thanks, Lupo, but I'm definitely using the 32 bit version. I'm sure the 64 bit version would have let me know in no uncertain terms if I had tried to install it on the 32 bit OS of this computer. ;-)</p>

<p>WRT comparison of the two versions by having them both running, I was thinking more about being able to easily spot small differences in the UI (eg, the old vs the new develop/basic panels) than about algorithm / processing / calibration differences, which, like you, I've also been playing with.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>Tom M</p>

 

<p>Patrick, you evil person --- suggesting that I switch to a Mac. LOL.</p>

<p>T</p>

<p> Lupo, do you see any difference between the images? Maybe at 100%... At this size i can't see nothing. ;)<br>

By the way thanks for your time.</p>

<p>"<em>Lupo, do you see any difference between the images? Maybe at 100%... At this size i can't see nothing</em>"</p>

<p>Picture #2 is more saturated and shows a little bit more Contrast oops I mean "Vibrance".<br>

I can't keep up with all these new versions. I purchased LR3 last Spring since then, I updated twice. Now I'm up to version 3.5. Unfortunatelly all the Tutorials are still on version 3. This causes problems when you are trying to learn how to get around the damn thing. </p>

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<p>Now I'm up to version 3.5. Unfortunatelly all the Tutorials are still on version 3. This causes problems when you are trying to learn how to get around the damn thing.</p>

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<p>There is no meaningful difference between 3.0 and 3.6. Any 3.x tutorial will apply to any 3.x version.</p>

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<p>Lupo, do you see any difference between the images?</p>

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<p>I'm not seeing a difference either, but the PV2012 definitely tastes better.</p>

<p>As well the youtube link posted earlier, Lynda.com have approx two hours of free tutorials running through the highlights. Very informative.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.lynda.com/Lightroom-4-tutorials/Photoshop-Beta-Preview/96215-2.html">http://www.lynda.com/Lightroom-4-tutorials/Photoshop-Beta-Preview/96215-2.html</a></p>

<p>rgds,<br>

james</p>

<p>where is the RGB tone curve?<br>

I see it in demos but not on my computer.<br>

Am i missing something?</p>

<p>strangely you need to click on the little curve icon (beside the linear word) and then you acces the rgb curve.. for now this is the way i found.</p>

<p>Yes, RGB curves are only available through the point curve interface, not through the parametric curve interface.</p>

<p>Mark, IMHO, that's a odd design choice. I find that I can modify curves more accurately (at least within the limits imposed by the limited # of points), reproducibly and quickly in parametric mode than by moving the points around directly on the curve or by typing in numbers. If there is a way to provide feedback to the design team, my strong recommendation would have been to have both methods available to the user. </p>

<p>Tom M</p>

<p>Tom, there certainly is a place -- the <a href="http://forums.adobe.com/community/labs/lightroom4/">Adobe Lightroom Beta forum</a>. And as always, you can suggest feature requests like this (and get others to vote for them) at the <a href="http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/products/photoshop_family_photoshop_lightroom">Photoshop Family forum</a>, which is the official bug report and feature request intake mechanism for all Lightroom releases.</p>

<p>Thanks, Mark. I've never done that before now and didn't know exactly where to go.</p>

<p>Tom</p>

<p>Just finished downloading it. I plan to try it out this evening when I get home... Truth be told, I am so happy with LR3 that it is unlikely I'll be moving to 4... Well, at least that's what I'm thinking right now. Everything might change when I take it for a spin ;-)</p>

<p>I found a really good analysis by The Lightroom Queen, and was incredibly disappointed to see this:</p>

 

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<p><strong>Collections no longer store module-specific data – there should be upgrade options in the final release, for transferring existing collection data into new creations</strong></p>

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<li>In Lightroom 3 and earlier, any collection also automatically stored output module settings, so a standard collection could also remember slideshow, print and web settings.</li>

<li>In Lightroom 4, that’s changed. Normal collections no longer store output module settings. Instead, you save individual books, slideshows, prints and web galleries, and they can’t contain settings from other modules.</li>

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<p>That's a real problem for my workflow unless the final release contains the upgrade options she mentions. </p>

<p>And here's a <a href="http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2012/01/09/whats-new-in-lightroom-4-0-beta/">link to her writeup </a>on the Beta.</p>

<p>A lot of tutorials have been posted, but here is another set:<br>

http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom4<br>

For me, the white balance brush will be worth the update by itself.<br>

After using the Beta, I am considering geting out of the PS CS3-4-5-x cycle and just going to LR4 and Elements. All of my PS plugins will work in standalone mode, so CS6 does not look like a reasonable upgrade to me...</p>

<p>I have both Lightroom 3.5 and 4 beta running on Windows 7 64-bit Lenovo with no apparent problems. Since upgrading to Canon 5D mark II I actually find myself doing probably more HD video work than photography. So being able to finally play the HD video in Lightroom at very high quality is absolutely great. Also I have noticed that the import and sync features are much faster than they where with LR3. I have several 3TB external SATA drives and when I used to try to import large directories with LR3 it would often hang or crash before import was finished. That hasn't happened once with LR4 and I was importing large video files as well.</p>

 

<p>2nd and more indepth video on soft proofing in LR 4 beta:</p>

<p>http://digitaldog.net/files/LR4_softproof2.mov</p>