Moo Business cards or how do other folks do it?

<p>Hello,<br /> My wife has been using moo for a while now to make her personalized little business cards. She includes these with her Etsy shop items and hands them out in order to drum up business for her consignments. <br /> Here is a link to a review of <a href="<a href="http:/factoidz.com/moo-business-cards-review-and-promo-code/">moo business cards</a> as well as a promo code<br /> How does everyone else do it? Is there anyone else doing what moo is (that is cheap, unique, custom business cards)? <br /> Has anyone found good results using them? Is there more of an impact for family photography, baby portraits, events, weddings, bar mitzvahs?</p>

<p>Pretty sure using Pnet to promote moo and your wife's Etsy shop is a no no.</p>

<p>Edit, Oh look, the link to the Etsy shop is gone. You forgot to remove the moo one.</p>

 

<p>I'm pretty sure I'm not doing that. I would like to see others thoughts on moo and how folks are promoting. I didn't think a promo code was disallowed here, and thought my link was just to see if anyone had any thoughts on how to market stuff. Sorry if I've offended though. Mods can do their bidding :)<br>

That wasn't me removing the link so mods are doing what they will. I'll review the TOS here and stay in-topic. Thanks. </p>

<p>The promo code doesn't pay back to the poster so that's not an issue.</p>

<p>I happen to like Moo cards, people always notice them. I do get calls back. I use them with several different images for different types of shooting, although on the back, I call out most of what I do.</p>

<p>Just a heads up on vistaprint. I'm looking for new cards and looked at vistaprint and then decided to check out their t&c's <a href="http://www.vistaprint.co.uk/content-submission-terms-and-conditions.aspx">here</a>. Unbelievable! It appears to be a rights grab of the worst kind. I'm no lawyer but it looks very much that if you use your own design or images for a card with them you grant vp a perpetual right to use it for commercial gain.</p>

<p>Which terms are you specifically referring to? Can you provide a link?</p>

<p>The link is there in the message above Jeff. "...check out their t&c's here" Click the here, and scroll down the page to 'Intellectual Property'.</p>

<p>Those are the Terms of Use for a contest called the Vistaprint Design Challenge. They are not particularly different than a lot of contest Terms of Use and they have nothing to do with someone doing business cards with them. The reason I asked is that those terms are not for use of the general Vistaprint services and I thought maybe there was a different link, but it looks like there isn't.</p>

<p><strong>"How does everyone else do it?"</strong><br>

Well, to answer the question, I used to use perforated business card paper. These days I use good quality photo paper. I use the card size of 90mm x 52mm. I use PhotoShop to design the card, ten cards to the page and cut them with a guillotine. I also make business cards on 6x4 photo paper as hand outs. Whole lot cheaper than paying someone else to do it.</p>

<p>Having printed my own cards, regardless of the cost, I find that commercially printed cards feel better and look better. There's a huge difference in the reaction to Moo cards and what I was printing myself.</p>

<p>Ahh! I clicked into that page from somewhere on the site and read it carefully and it apparently does not mention that these t&c's apply to a 'competition'. How bizarre.</p>

<p>The T&C are fairly standard fare for publishing content on a web page and to enter contests. Essentially you need to grant them permissions in order to allow them to post the photos. Your choice. I recall similar flaps over various and sundry iphone apps when users submit content for the contest. Hipstamatic handled it fairly well explaining to everybody that they don't want your pictures, nor any rights to them, but to post them up they need the license. </p>

<p>Yeah I'm well aware of such competitions (sorry 'rights grabs') - I have several posts made here over the last few years about them - what surprised me with this was that it's not entirely obvious that it is a competition. I was clicking through links on the site looking at having cards printed and this came up when looking for t&c's for printing, and assumed it appplied to designs you submit for printing. I have no problem granting permission to 'competitions' to display images - its the draconiain all-rights retention that I object to. I can read small print and exercise caution - but I know many many others dont bother reading the t&c's and get taken advantage of.</p>

<p>I've used moo a few times. Absolutely love the finish of the cards. I keep a few of the higher end moo ward in my business card holder, along with some cheaper cards I had done at vistaprint. I use the moo cards frequently as a mini portfolio when I run into a casual situation that progresses into business talk. Lower paying clients (realtors, regular folk etc) get the standard although classy, vistaprint cards, while high paying clients get a moo card. I just can't justify $0.50 on every person I meet. I did a first run of 5000 at vp, and use them for everything. Quality was better than ok, although not amazing. Vp could really benefit from a paper with a heavier weight than they offer.</p>

<p>I've been using Overnight Prints for a few years and have no complaints whatsover. I started using Vistaprint but thought the quality of the cut and paper feel were substandard so I asked around to a few other pros I knew and was pointed in the direction of Overnight prints and have been happy ever since. Their cards are a bit higher in price than VP but the stock and quality seem quite a bit better to me. I do like the feel of MOO cards(had some samples sent to me before I used Overnight Prints) but haven't used them personally.</p>