Body decision. 5d. Add 7d or Sell it and Buy 5DII

<p>Hi all;<br>

I am contemplating adding a new camera or upgrading from my 5D. Some of the reasons included HD video need; and I welcome a newer camera with sharper better AF and more megapixels.</p>

<p>What I would like to say is that I know 5DII is better for me than 7D for the most important things for me that is family, social, portraits etc...</p>

<p>However my recent LOVE in photography these days is both bird photography; Action photography and sometimes Macro. I'm feeling the 8 frames per second (2 processors!) and the APS-c zoom factor in the 7D to be really nice things I would miss out on. The frame rate of 3.9 frame per second in the 5DII.</p>

<p>But the thing is carrying 2 cameras is awkward; and my lenses are more suited for FF: 35L,24-105L,24-70L,135L, 70-200F4IS. For what I said above been my Joy these days I'm using the 70-200 F4IS almost exclusively and see that I would love some more reach; and at times when I shoot birds in flight I do need more speed. But despite that that lens is awesome for me.<br>

So if you were me; upgrade to the 5DII and get maybe a canon or kenko 1.4 TC? or get the 7D.<br>

I will post one photo I took which I really liked (note: i'm not a pro)</p>

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<p>I have had both cameras and what I would do get the 7D.<br>

I would keep the 5D unless you really need to sell it.<br>

If you sell it you could consider getting a 10-22mm EF-S wide lens.<br>

You should have every thing from a wide angle to the telephoto then.<br>

The use of extenders will reduce your max aperture.</p>

<p>If you want to do bird photography I would add the 7D and a 1.4x for the 70-200 and save your pennies for the 500mm f4 you are going to want next :) . Your lens lineup is only "Awkward" if you are comparing it to classic portrait lens lengths. I promise they will work perfectly fine on the 7D, but I'm betting the 70-200 with or without the 1.4x never leaves that body if you get it, and your perfectly fine 5D will still take marvelous classic portraits with the others.</p>

<p>Cool..and I Guess one important question and maybe decider for me is that for ACTION Photography forgetting about birds and focal length; is the 7D any better or worse than 5DII apart from the continuous shooting advantage?! :) <br>

I imagine if I have this now:<br>

5D = 12.8 MP = 4368 <em>x</em> 2912 pixels<br>

5DII= 21.1 MP= 5616 <em>x</em> 3744 pixels; a factor improvement of 1.29.<br>

Adding 1.4TC; and that's a 1.8 TIMES :)<br>

7D= 18MP= 5184 x 3456. adding 1.4 TC with it; and the fact it's already 1.6x = 2.66 TIMES!<br>

Offcourse continuous shooting is a big difference; but my main question guys is that for action photography; aren't the 5DII and 7D about the same? or is there an obvious difference im heedless about?</p>

 

<p>The obvious difference, to me at least, is the AF system. </p>

I have both andd for birds and sports I gravitate to the 7D. The AF and frame rate make it a better body for this. The

7D crop factor is not actually a biggest deal beyond what you see in the viewfinder. While the 7D puts slightly more

pixels on the subject (you have to crop less) the 5DII has better pixels. There have been posts on this forum showing

that the 1.6x factor vs a bigger 5DII crop makes almost no difference and this has been my experience.

 

Get the 7D for it's AF and 8fps (it also has a bigger burst depth)

<p>For what you are describing, the 7Ds features will benefit you far more than a 5d2. The 7D is competent for most uses, and excels in what you want to do. An inexpensive APS-C UWA zoom will cover what you'll be missing on the wide end, and, if the budget is tight, getting rid of the lens overlap your 24-105 & 24-70 represents will easily make up the difference. Maybe allow a fast 'normal' APS-C zoom (17-50/55 2.8).</p>

<p>It's up to you of course, but from how you've described what you want to shoot, the 7D is a better choice for you.</p>

<p>Keep the 5D, add the 7D, and trade the 5D for the 5D III later.</p>

<p>From pure IQ perspective, there really isn't much to differentiate b/t the 5dc and 5d2. Some folks would even go as far as to say the former was better. The 5d2 being more modern will have a lot more features.<br>

A 7D is a nice compliment to the 5D cameras. It has even more modern features than the 5d2. Since you like shooting birds and nature stuff, I think the 7D will serve you better. And when you want to go for landscape and portraits, the 5dc will still serve up aces.<br>

I like having two format of cameras. Provides versatility.</p>

<p>I agree with many above. The 7D is far more appropriate for sports, so get it first. Upgrade your full frame in a couple more years. I shoot with a crop body for sports and a full frame for architecture/landscape.</p>

<p>Keep your 5D and add a 7D.</p>

<p>I own the 5D MkII and the 7D. I use the 7D for birds, wildlife, macros and sports and the 5D2 for everything else, like portraits, street photography, night photography, travel photography and scenics. I hardly use the video capabilty of either, but both are great in that regard.</p>

<p>I own a 5D and a 7D. I'm very dissapointed in the image quality from the 7D. Noise / noise reduction artifacts are much worse in my 7D than in my 5D original. (pixel peeping at 100%)</p>

<p>I'd keep the 5D and buy a used 100-400L or a 400MM prime for bird photography. Forget about the TC. Too much loss.</p>

<p>When the 5D MKIII comes out, go for it.</p>

<p>I'm always surprised when people are dissapointed in the IQ of the 7D vs. the 5D MkII. I find that the 7D has superior detail and excellent ISO performance up to ISO 800 and good up to ISO 1600. My 5D MkII is superior beyond that point, but 99% of my shooting is below that range. I use the 5D MkII for portraits and night shots, but the 7D is the go-to body for birds, wildlife and sports.</p>

<p>Here's a 7D shot at ISO 800:</p>

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