benjamin_shapiro2 Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Hello Trusty Experts, <br> Any idea how <a href="http://www.in-public.com/trentparke/portfolio/index.php">this stuff</a> is done? I'm stumped. Seems like exposure, development, and printing are all being managed creatively, but I can't figure it out specifically other than severe burning and cutting and maybe other wise manipulating negatives? <br> I'm impressed. <br> Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin_shapiro2 Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 P.S. There's an arrow on the right to click through the portfolio (a friend I sent the link to didn't see it). Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_t. Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Why don't you email him and ask him yourself? The address is right there in the contacts list... Best Nicholas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I think you've pretty well figured it out, Ben. It's a high contrast print, possibly a high contrast negative as well (underexposed and overdeveloped - IOW, pushed). Lots of dodging and/or burning. For me, at least, I'd want lots of printing time to accomplish this. I'd stop down enough to force a printing exposure time in the neighborhood of 30-60 seconds to give me plenty of elbow room for manipulations. And a footswitch control for the timer to free up both hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrico__ Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 image - city sunshower. the light is still relatively bright so in effect what you would do is expose for the highlights so that they print properly OR expose normally and print darker on a higher grade filter. the area to the left of the image (in front of the boy) is naturally in a shaded area so if exposing for the highlights then ofcourse the difference in stops would be high enough for the contrast to become so 'apparent'.. creative and careful attention to detail is a must when printing images like so. though its not as complicated as it seems. Narelle Autio and Trent Parke are always noted for their simple and effective approaches. Viewed a doco on both these two on SBS (Sydney Channel) just recently and they are very much down to earth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau 1664876222 Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I'm told Trent's just another Leica M guy; clearly he uses a wide-angle mostly. To get the look and texture of his prints, you have to use a film with very wide exposure latitude, which is a wordy way of saying "tri-x". The "look" is mostly in the printing: you print very contrasty, but go to enormous lengths to retrieve detail in the highlights and shadows by burning and dodging like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjarke_schulin Posted April 5, 2004 Share Posted April 5, 2004 Think it is tri-x rodional 1:25 @ 200iso and developed in 8-9mins Look very much like this: www.ralphgibson.com regards bjarke, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_lindsay Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 All of the above is very well but it is the shots that seem to have a lot of blurr, with high speed film and exposing for highlights. (there are many more examples of this on the magnum photos website) how do you get slow enough shutter speeds? Neutral density filters? Can you pull tri x to iso 50 or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Paul, ND filters could be used very conveniently on a Leica or other camera which doesn't require viewing through the lens for composing and focusing. So, yes, it's entirely possible that's one of the techniques. I'm not sure what you mean by exposing for the highlights - that sounds like a recipe for underexposure which probably translates into push processing. And, sure, Tri-X has enough latitude to handle exposure indices from 100 on up pretty easily. EI 50 would be tricky - I don't know of anyone doing this deliberately (some folks report having done this accidentally and ask for help). OTOH, maybe the photographer simply uses a different film on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_k Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Dream/Life was shot on ILFORD FP4 (pushed) with a Leica. Trent on dodging & burning: http://ccp.org.au/exhibitions/archives/2001/leica/exhbt_leica-interv-parke.html "I'm always trying to break the photographic boundaries but I don't do anything on the computer that I can't do in the darkroom." Trent Parke: - Everyday Surreal by Chad Watson (Newcastle Herald 20Apr02) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_k Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 "The oddly dreamlike mood of his surf photos came about by accident. After a great day of shooting, he nearly wrecked his film. Almost in despair, he tried processing it a new way-sorry, he won't reveal details-and it worked. Some of his beach pictures just earned second place in World Press Photo's Daily Life Stories category." 30 under thirty - Photo District News - Mar 2000 "The Seventh Wave" photos @ http://www.stillsgallery.com.au/artists/ t_parke_n_autio/index.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_pleaner1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Lou, I have had varying opinions from people regarding what film Trent Parke is using in Dream Life. One person suggested that pushed FP4 would not give the shadow detail that are in Dream Life. WHAT SHADOW DETAIL! So I'm not sure if suggesting that is was NOT FP4 is correct. Another person suggested 2 stop pushed FP4 developed in Ilfotec DD-X to give fluffy grain. That is sounding most likely give also that Trent is sponsored by ILFORD. Where did you find out that Trent uses FP4. I wish I had the luxurey of time to experiment but I have school assignments due soon that I want to try this technique on! :-) Thanks Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_pleaner1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 CORERCTION: The post suggested Ilford Delta 3200 at EI3200 and developing it in DD-X. Not FP4.Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_lindsay Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I've noticed that there are colour versions of some black and white shots in his Magnum archives suggesting that some times he prints B/W from colour negs. In his most recent work 'Minutes to Midnight' and most of 'Dream Life' I would say he uses red filters, and a lot of dodging and burning in the darkroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_obturateur Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Thanks Ben for this great post! Trent Parke is one of the most interesting photographers of the moment imho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_tritton Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 <p>I noticed a few people thought Trent Parke used Tri-X. But I think he may use FP4. He may also push push to 200.<br> As some other people have said, he probably sets his exposure for the brightest parts of the scene and works from there. <br> I think some of it is also happy accident. I saw in a Magnum interview with Parke that the photo he took of the bus passing by was accidental. After he saw the effect it created with that long blur of highlighted bus going past with shadows in it, he back tracked to how he had set his camera exposure and worked from there. So that image was one of those happy accidents that he learnt from.<br> I don't like the colour work he's done too much but his B&W work is great. There is a photo I think Narelle took of him examining negatives he'd hung in a tree to dry. I wonder how those negs turned out after air drying outside with all that dust blowing around?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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