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<p>6060 6x6 film back for Hy6. I've emailed DHW fototechnik and Reiner directly. I am currently awaiting their response. It's been a few days and I haven't heard back. I usually do get an answer so I'm not super worried yet. Last time I spoke with them I was told the film back 6x6 is on a waiting list at the momment. I was wondering if anyone on here has the film back available in their area in a shop? If so whats the price and would you be willing to ship one too me? I'm willing to pay a finder's fee just don't want to wait a month to get one shipped to me.</p>

<p>Thanks<br>

Kahl</p>

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<p>Dear Kahl,</p>

<p>this shop has several on shelf and now available. it is in Hong Kong. I visited them just last week.</p>

<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://9days.hk/shop/" target="_blank">http://9days.hk/shop/</a><br />If you are not in Hong Kong you may consider sending an email to ask for prices. They do ship to overseas.</p>

<p>They accept paypal and are also listed on ebay.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>Tak</p>

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<p>Hi Tak,</p>

<p>I really appreciate your help. they quoted me something like 2100 - 2300 US for the back. From DHW it's 1300 and change. I do want the back badly but not enough to spend 1000 more than MSRP.</p>

<p>Thanks a lot though I really appreciate your assistance, that was the only shop I could find that had them.</p>

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<p>yeah, it is too expensive for me, too. for me i would stick to 645 for the moment, since all my exhibits and publications are 8x10 or 16x20. (i use mainly 4x5 format now) If i am dying for a square composition i can always use my 6008. i will wait until i win a lottery or have enough savings then i will buy the 80MP back LOL Though products are very expensive now, on the other hand establishing an official dealer in HK is good for DHW (desperate house wives?) and local users because they can arrange shipment for repair. Tak</p>
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<p>Thanks again Tak, the pricing is expensive but the fluctuation in pricing is what I am not happy with. I got a response from Reiner who says there is still a waiting list till April, it's the second time I'll be asking to be placed on the list, I never got a response when I asked to be put on it for march. I really wanted the 6x6, maybe should of went with the 6008 AF, I just wanted to be open for a digital back later on besides the P20. At this point I'm torn between settling for the 645 or trying to figure out where I can get one at the 1300Us quote I originally received from DHW fototechnik. I wish I knew someone in germany lol. I don't see myself ever getting or needing the 80MP back unless I win too lol. Maybe the Leaf 33 would be cool, and I'd always be able to swap to the 6x6 film back! <br>

I guess since 9days seems to be the only ones who actually have the back in hand, they can quote such a high price. I asked again for a quote and they said they are an authorized dealer and I must have been misquoted by Reiner. Still not sure what that means, I wonder if Fototechnik is going to quote me 2100 US when I finally get on this waiting list. I have no choice but to wait and see what I can find, I'm thinking of searching for someone who lives near their headquarters, I hear you can grab one if you're actually physically there..</p>

<p>Kahl</p>

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<p>I just found a post in luminous landscape from a while ago, one of the posters said they paid 1340Eur for it. I just checked my emails and in fact Reiner quoted me 1150 Euros for it. So it's me who is wrong. This is the real price of the back, I guess I couldn't believe it. LOL 9days is still 600US off the actual price but nonetheless it's not as bad as I though. My fault.. WOW that is expensive!!!</p>
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<p>Yes it is (and btw, nice to meet a fellow "Guy" on the forums!)</p>

<p>I've been e-mailing Reiner back and forth over the last week, and got the same quote as you for the 6x6. I dunno... I really want an HY6, if for no other reason than it is the finest 6x6 autofocus camera ever created. But, it is expensive, and honestly, based on all the research I've done (including the very lengthy thread here between a couple photo.net users late last year), I have to agree that HY6 is, at least for now, a dead end as far as camera systems goes.</p>

<p>There are not many options as far as digital backs go, and no real prospects for future ones (I think there might be one more coming, but is it here yet?) DHW are a shell of a company, and based on my e-mails with Reiner, I have learned that they do not accept credit cards, and will charge an extra 6% fee for PayPal. Give me a break! So my only option, if I want to buy direct from them, is an international wire transfer (I'm in the U.S.).</p>

<p>The HK shops are a legitimate option, but yes, you will pay more because they are a reseller - they gotta make some money too in all this craziness. So I dunno... I've been thinking real hard about just how much do I really want 6x6 autofocus, when you can get, for just a couple thousand more $$, a brand new Mamiya DM28 645 system with lens. And possibly save on that by buying used. I hadn't really thought about the final output, and just now (stupidly, I know), realized that I do indeed crop all my 6x6 images from the Hassy kit I use. So really - is it worth it to go 6x6 knowing that you're going to crop anyway?</p>

<p>Well, I'm just glad there's another potential HY6 user out there - post back if you decide to go ahead with the system!</p>

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<p>Hey Guy!<br>

I'm way ahead of thinking about getting it! I have an Hy6 body in the mail. I will be mainly using film and I really want to shoot 6x6. My only regret is the loss of low light ambient/flash mixing I like doing. I can't wait to see what I can do with 800 ASA though. I'm not really feeling Mamiya's lenses and bodies right now, I'm only going from forum feedback etc. Plus I am sold on 6x6. My only alternative would have been a 6008 AF or a hassy 500 of some sort. I think I am starting to regret not going for the hassy. The novelty of an Hy6 is wearing off pretty quick now that I'm trying to get this back. If I were going to shoot 645 I would have got a Contax a long time ago, with maybe a cheap digital back. Now with the Hy6 I don't even have an option for Polaroid. huuhh. I'll figure it out, I really love the rollei lenses so at least that will cheer me up!</p>

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<p>Ah cool... well at least there is one more "new" HY6 user out there. :)</p>

<p>My main use for the camera would be film as well, but given how expensive it is, I figured it was a good idea to know what digital options there are for it in the future. I have two small kids running around the house these days, and even though I can get good pics of them with the Hassy 501cm or RZ67 Pro II, it's not easy, and I definitely miss some shots that an AF capable camera would at least give me a decent chance at.</p>

<p>I will say that you're not missing much by not going with a Hassy - I've found that focusing with it is not always straightforward, in that I have a hard time even seeing the split image in the center under many different conditions, not to mention the microprism collar. I specifically got that camera for the Accute-Matte screen, and it is underwhelming to say the least. The RZ67 is a lot easier to focus with, but that is a beast to haul around. I make good use of it though, and not to rub too much salt, but it actually takes really good instant shots too with the Fuji pack film.</p>

<p>I dunno what I'll do at this point, but I'm glad this thread was started - at least I know now that there is an option to get the 6x6 back from somewhere other than DHW, even if it means paying a little extra (well, a lot, but who's counting at these prices anyway!? :)</p>

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<p>Well Guys (!), thought to chip in here. Have had 6003,6008AF, and now a Hy6,with a digital back. While I have film back for it I must say that the camera is mostly a digital one.... no need to use the film in truth. I'll hold onto the back, but the cameras strengths are its integration across many lines - from studio to field, and the use of those lovely lenses. The focus confirmation on the Hy6 with manual lenses, and the mirror dampening are two fine reasons for this camera over the Hassy V series. I hope you continue to explore them, and not be put off by the informal sales force of DHW. They have been reliable, although sometimes a bit slow. Good people tho. </p>
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<p>Guy and Geoff, thanks very much for your replies and experiences. Geoff your comments are encouraging nonetheless, I do want to get a 33MP back for it eventually. For now I've spoken to other Hy6 users who report DHW fototechnik answers them as well with the pricing but never replies when an order is placed etc. Not sure what the deal is. I'll keep you guys posted on my experiences, hopefully I'll be able to acquire a back for 1150Euros as that is the lowest confirmed price I have received.</p>
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<p>I owned a Hy6 with a 22mp back about a year and a half or two years ago by now. I loved the Hy6, hated the back. If the 6x6 back had been available back then, I would have bought it in a heartbeat. I still use the 6008AF and it is a great camera, but the Hy6 is very much an improvement on it -- it is lighter and more compact, more ergonomic, has quicker AF, a better damped mirror, clearer shooting information, and of course, a much better battery system! That said, the 6008AF has certain things in its favor -- it is much cheaper, the 6x6 back has a straight film path for easy loading and no film curl issues if you leave the film in the back for awhile, and there are probably a lot more used accessories available out there. And there is also something about having real manual dials for your shutter speed and aperture...I missed that with the hy6.</p>
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<p>Update! So the 6x6 back is now available on ebay through 9days, I guess after me asking them so many questions they decided to post the parts, they also now have a 45 prism and a 90 prism , an extra battery and charger. The prices are pretty decent too! The back is still 2100, as for DHW fototechnik I was able to get a response! I'm on the waiting list and I've been invoiced!! Should get it in early april!!! Keep you posted!!</p>

 

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<p>Hi Guys and guys!<br>

first of all i would protest that Hy6 is a dead end (not personal :D ) now that the whole system is available. the shop that i mentioned had opened a new show room dedicated only to Rollei medium format products. there are over 10 lenses on display plus other accessories including the shutter release cable, 45 dg and 90 dg prism, slide mounts and slide projectors.<br>

after using 6006, 4 versions of 6008 incl integral and af, and now Hy6 i have to say that every upgrade is a pleasure to have. and it is difficult to turn back.<br>

at least for the camera and some accessories, they are freely available now. but the shop in Hong Kong is the most costly: for example the Hy6 kit is US$7900 on B&H but 8900 in Hong Kong. a few months ago the B&H website sometimes says they are accepting orders but not certain about availability. but now they say it usually ships within 7 to 14 days.<br>

early april is a very short time to wait! that is great news. please tell us how you feel about the magazine. i read that you have to remove the 645 adapter to fit it on.<br>

cheers and enjoy your new system!<br>

Tak</p>

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<p>one interesting point:<br>

the new makro-apogon 120mm and the tele-apogon 150mm are both listed as Schneider and not Zeiss in the new catalogue in this company.<br>

not sure what they really are.<br>

i have talked to those people and they are really passionate about photography and indeed about Rollei. i myself am passionate about Rollei, too.<br>

Cheers,<br>

Tak</p>

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<p>I was just telling Geoff that I think Apogon is a Rollei "house brand" rather than an indication of Schneider or Zeiss design. It's hard to imagine DHW adding AF to a Zeiss Planar design on the 80mm Apogon shown on the DHW website, and the Schneider AF-Longar has become an Apogon as well.</p>
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<p>Hi, Guy,<br /> I visited, and commented on a couple of posts, but I do wonder if the information you are posting there might be more visible (ie. help more people) if it were posted here. Not sure how big you intend your blog to get, so I suppose it all depends...<br /> Welcome to the Rollei 6x6 SLR family!<br /> -Brad</p>
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<p>Hey Bradley,<br>

Yea thanks for the comments. the blog is mainly for me lol so I can go back to it and have a list of all the information instead of having to search through a forum or posts. You're probably right I'd get more views and posts from others here. Either way I'll keep posting my questions here mainly, I'll just use the blog as more a bookmark list!!<br>

Thanks again</p>

<p>Kahl</p>

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<p>Well... I went ahead and bought an HY6 kit from a different outfit on ebay, and it arrived today!</p>

<p>Unfortunately, the kit came with the older Pisen F570 battery, and it appears to be completely dead. I've contacted the seller to see if they can help me out, but in the meantime, is there a compatible battery I could pick up from an online store based in the U.S.? (Preferably so I can get multiple batteries - no sense having a camera run out of power on you while on a shoot!)</p>

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<p>Guy,<br>

I have an extra battery here from the days when I owned a Sinar Hy6. Since I now have an AFi, I can't use it--I'd be happy to give it to you, if that helps. It hasn't been used in a year and a half, but I suspect it works fine.<br>

PM me and we can make the arrangements for me to send it to you.<br>

Best regards,<br>

-Brad</p>

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