Alan Marcus Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>Hi DF<br> Before you picket EK Co. and maybe others about the disappearance of film, ask yourself how many rolls of film you purchased last year and the year before. In other words, could film survive on the film purchases of you and other devotees.<br> Soon you will be able to visit film and the apparatuses to develop at the museum, next to the Civil War medicals instruments.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>You got it Daniel. I need to take a picture of it and put it up. I found the thing with all the chargers and extras in a box at a Goodwill store. Never thought of it again after I could not find an affordable hard drive or card to fit it as I think it was a PMI and had to be under 1 G.</p> <p> Funny is I can put film in my other N9o but this thing is now a museum piece.</p> <p> Oh and I do my full share to keep film alive as Freestyle has me on speed dial. :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_f11 Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>'Nothing against you Daniel, you're a good guy. 'Should've left your name out - my mistake, and apology. My angst is also toward the Big 3 - K, F, &A.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo5 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>We all collectively caused film to die because we didn't buy enough of it. I am guilty as the rest of us, I began shooting digital alongside film in late 2000, and since late 2007 when I bought my Nikon D300 I have shot nearly no film at all (around 12 rolls since then).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>Umm last time I looked film was not dead....... Just like many things it has become survival of the fittest and of the market. Someone said something about gas is 5x what it used to be but we still buy cars. Well I tell you that if a gas free car that got 200-500 miles or better per charge and cost what a gas car does now, people will be bitching that they can't find a gas station for their 10 year old car and if they do the gas is $10.00 a gallon.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>Film and Kodak became a household name in photography because after no time at all, it became word on the street that it was the stuff to use. When people use and otherwise talk about a product with a great deal of enthusiasm, that is better than paid marketing. Add to that the propagation of great imagery and you have sealed the deal, that will net more sales than any print campaign.<br> So now all we have is a lot of banter on what is dissapearing, what is left and who is at fault. And I hate to say it but we have a lot more of that than great imagery. Quite a few heavy hitters in the pro field that are still using film in some form or another and who's visual opinion amateurs would surely respect are sill remaining silent. One exception is David Alan Harvey, he has mentored photographers since he was in his 20's, it has worked for him and sets him apart besides the quality of his work. So when he blogs or tweets about loving Tri-X in his medium format camera for his "American Family" project, that is the GOOD stuff to get out there!<br> Ever since the digital revolution, it is has really been more important than ever to SHOW people why we should keep film around, not just talk about it. Buy it and make as good a photograph as you can then show it, stop complaining about Kodak and get the word out!<br> This really is up to us at this point, buying the stuff is just one part of it....</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy_d Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 <p>Jerry Uelsman and Albert Watson still use film and there stuff is still worth a fortune.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_needham Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 <p>When I worked in a store/lab in the mid-90s I remember Kodak reps telling me that "We could have dumped Kodachrome a long time ago if Paul Simon hadn't written that damn song." I got the impression he was only half joking. I think the true fans may have given it an extra decade at least.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 <p>I agree with Daniel, show the film pics.</p> <p><a title="norway_small_church by photogsjm, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4932190773_ebb37de477.jpg" alt="norway_small_church" width="500" height="314" /></a></p> <p><a title="BlackPrince_Norway by photogsjm, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4932829096_3be39bf24c.jpg" alt="BlackPrince_Norway" width="500" height="331" /></a></p> <p><a title="emma_ella_cafe by photogsjm, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4534523014_3f77dc2f02.jpg" alt="emma_ella_cafe" width="500" height="317" /></a></p> <p><a title="park_path by photogsjm, on Flickr" href=" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2756/4534522840_8d93dba212.jpg" alt="park_path" width="317" height="500" /></a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randrew1 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 <p>Matt,<br> I've had several similar conversations with Kodak marketing managers. It was not only the song, but the entire Kodachrome mystique (which they had worked to build up in prior years) that kept it going past the point of profitability.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcom_knight Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 <p>Maybe someone here with a little $$$ can start up a retro film company and sell it to this niche market. I would love to have Agfa 25 black & White, back. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 <p>We already have a few already. Foma Efke Ilford Rollei....... Era Lucky.....</p> <p>Rollei 80s with Rodinol.<br /> <img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/5408937535_0f013d4b1b_z.jpg" alt="" width="391" height="640" /></p> <p>Larger here</p> <p> <p>Who needs AGFA 25 when we can get it at a higher speed And in Diafine this stuff is 125-200.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre_noble5 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 <p>I have a lot of respect for what Daniel Bayer did. Taking the financial risk to live hso dream shooting the Kodachrome project. He is clearly intune with the value of the (siver based traditional photography) medium.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_4136860 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 <p>It's no good getting angry and demonstrating it's a lost cause, Kodak ceased manufacturing Kodachrome four years ago in 2006 the film that was still around was existing stock and there's no way you can make a company make a product that isn't selling enough to be profitable, their first loyalty is to their shareholders.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddymendoza Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dave Lee is absolutely right! A lot of us stopped using film when digital showed up. I retired my F5 when the NikonD1 came out, even with its hefty price tag as long as I got my images right away. My problem is that it took me years to figure out that no matter how instant digital is there still is a lot of work to do later on the computer. We became the "lab" and had to learn a whole lot of technical stuff. So yes we are culpable! We are culpable because we wanted our images yesterday not tomorrow or even a few hours later. After years of shooting digital, I am now shooting film again. From 35mm to medium format to Polaroid on a 4x5. I am in love with film again! I admit it. I shoot more film now but only for the good stuff. I have a feeling I'm a little late though. I hope I'm wrong. In the mean time I'll start saving for that Hasselblad or Mamiya with an 80 megapixel back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_barnes1 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <p>I appreciate this call to film users to go out and shoot! Thanks! Too many are talking about the equipment--it is important, don't get me wrong---but if you love the look of film, you got to get out there again and stop being computer operators and start clicking. CVS/pharmacy has announced that going forward NO film processing equipment will go into any new stores.<br> Wake up! If you love film, shoot it!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredonian Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm a little skeptical that you are actually a film user...and indeed we are perhaps the last of a dying kind. I take pride however that we are a generation from a time long before this age of an overtly virtualistic culture. Sweeping in a mindless hurry and becomming ever more bored of existance with instant gratification. A generation whom had known and experienced a world that was more genuinely and humanisticly connected in both better and worser of times. A world that had built and been built under the blanket of the bomb. Silly...silly boy...Do you think it's the film that we are really crying for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 <p>Maybe I can sum this up in one picture.<br> Just smile and enjoy your place in life.<br> <img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5427398972_efb4a07f46.jpg" alt="" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredonian Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Another fine point you've added in pictures indeed Larry. The good old days of lead solid and oil based paints! I miss them too. Now we are left to seeing kids peeling their gangsta logos into the chep latex junk of today! *smiles* LOL...a great and happy photo Larry...Thanks for sharing!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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