Iphone photos

<p>Tom M.,</p>

<p>I agree. Quality of the photo doesn't matter as much as the feeling, emotion, story, compositon, etc. I think those responses were rude and snobby. </p>

<p>Dennis</p>

<p>Tom, while I can understand how they those two statements (photo must stand on its own and complete understanding includes knowing the photographer's intentions) might seem paradoxical, they can also be seen as complimentary. John A. and I had this discussion a couple of weeks ago when commenting on a POW. I stated that I wanted to view the POW entirely on its own without reference to anything else, while John A. wanted to view the POW in context with other photographs the POW recipient had produced so that a more complete understanding of the photographer might be obtained. I stated that I wasn't going to take the time to do that (mine was the minimum that was needed to be able to comment on a POW), but that I might benefit from and would welcome the additional information that John A.'s type of research might produce.</p>

<p>Same with this photo, although with Emmanual's photo I find that additional information is essential (just as I sometimes find it essential when commenting on other photos [especially photos that I don't understand] posted in the critique forums).</p>

<p>I just woke up, and I must have been working on your comments while I was asleep, because I understand them better (I think). If you thought my questions to Emmanual regarding his intentions were not genuine, that I was being sarcastic and asking them with the tone of "What the heck were you thinking?", then my questions would come across as condescending. But my questions were genuine and I truly wanted to understand Emmanual's motivations before commenting, because at that point, after viewing that single photograph of the cityscape, I didn't understand why Emmanual had made such a photo other than to simply use the iPhone as a camera. It's the same with other comments I've been making in recent weeks. I sometimes state that if a photographer had "A" as the goal, then he/she has succeeded, but if "B" was the goal, then I'd suggest doing this, this, and that. I really like it when a photographer states up front why they made the photo -- what they were wanting to depict or the message they saw in the image (I can recall two such examples from yesterday; I commented on one, and the photographer's statement of purpose really helped me form my comments).</p>

<p>So I hope a better understanding of my mindset and the difficulty I have when critiquing a photo that I'm having trouble understanding will help you (and Dennis Hussey) know why I'm asking questions about intention or purpose -- those really are genuine questions. If they weren't genuine, then Dennis would be right -- they would be rude and snobby. Fortunately, I don't think that being rude and snobby has any place in any of the forums, and whenever I choose my words poorly, I'll apologize for it.</p>

<p>Dennis, as an aside, I think quality is defined by feeling, emotion, story, composition, and I'll include lighting as one of your et ceteras. You and I have no disagreement there. Not all have to be present in a single photo for that to be a quality photo, but when they are all present, you're probably looking at an exceptional photo.</p>

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<p>Anyone can take a picture everyday with their phone, why are yours special?</p>

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<p>Perhaps you have provided the answer to your own question... <em>I'm trying square format -- I'm wanting to shake up my vision... ...I want to try something very different. </em><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=577139">Emmanuel</a> may be using a different tool to realize or 'shake up' his vision. If iPhones produce poor quality images, as you suggest, <a href="../photodb/user?user_id=577139">Emmanuel</a> may be concentrating more on concepts and less on technical issues by using A modern day Polaroid/Holga/Lomo ect?</p>

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<p><em>What a lot of pretense and snobbery in the first replies to this thread.</em><br /> <em>Emmanuel I like the concept of what you are doing. From what I've seen you are a talented photographer. Do go on with what you're doing. I like it.</em><br /> <em>I can see a mood in the images that aren't found in many portfolios and the quality issues adds to it. That's why we have cameras. To make images. I applaud the effort here.</em><br /> <em>Same here</em></p>

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<p>I could not agree more. Is far more refreshing that the stuff made my stuffed shirts who devote their photographic energies to trying to mimic what Ansel Adams has already done. Half Dome is probably seeking a restraining order on those folk.<br>

Interesting how that ever so elusive photographic quality, <em>talent,</em> draws the ire of so many when ever it rears its noble head.</p>

<p>i like the *low quality* of my iphone 4 pict, as i like it when i was using my holga, my diana, my shoebox, my kodak disc, my 110mm and all the other gear i had to make my images, my vision.</p>

<p>Some people here have the latest baddest super high expensive camera and only make boring family picture or photo in the mall of Santa... i try to make something that i like first, whatever the tool.</p>

<p>I have 2 Canon 5D, 1 Rebel T1i, 1 Canon G9, 1 Canon D10, 1 Panasonic ZS 7... they all have there purpose ; )</p>

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<p>Good job Emmanuel, create image that you like, with whatever tool you like.. it doesnt matter. Im sure if you have said that you had use a Holga, all would have been fine ; )</p><div></div>

<p>ahhh another one since im here ; )</p>

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Hi Emmanuele, i to have an iPhone actually two of them. A 3GS and the new iPhone 4 and I have to tell you, I can

see no resemblance in your photos to the ones my iPhone produces. Are you intentionally editing them to look old? The iPhone has better tone detail than what you show, In

which case it is not a real indicative image representation of the the medium. Anyways just my 2 cents here. I think

the iPhone camera is great especially when you can print 8X10 easily with great detail and color but to edit them to

look like an old view camera or Rolleiflex is beyond me.

Good luck

Ed