bobcossar Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>So....this is really a contest to see who can make the stupidest remark possible?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Ooh, I could win that.</p> <p>"Your mom shoots digital!"</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py-photography Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 2 wrongs will never make a right. I think perhaps the fellow was trying to start up a conversation.. Not everyone is great with small talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_livacich Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I had happen that a couple times. I just said, "I prefer film". If they'd wanted to push further I would have told them why.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipward Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 What do you expect,after all he was a Canon shooter!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw63 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I'm not sure how I would have answered, but I often get in trouble with my quick retorts. I think it would depend on the tone he used. Was it a condescending remark or snide ? If not, I'd have said, I was saving up for what ever replaces the D300. If he was being a jerk, I would probably have said, " The camera doesn't take the picture. "</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve m smith Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <blockquote> <p>Just crack off a clever one liner and move on...</p> </blockquote> <p>Unfortunately I don't think of a clever one liner until a couple of hours later.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <p> Nobody has ever said anything to me at all about any of my camera's. But I guess I would have just told the guy that I already owned one.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojepsen1 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <p>I support Jeff Livacich's view. I would probably smile from ear to ear in the situation, though. I always find it rather amusing when people say things like that. Plus, of course, a smile is the shortest distance between two people (soppy as it sounds) :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unangelino Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <blockquote> <p><em>2 wrongs will never make a right. I think perhaps the fellow was trying to start up a conversation.. Not everyone is great with small talk.</em></p> </blockquote> <p>Very optimistic, but unlikely. If this were true, the guy could have simply said, "Do you ever shoot digital or only film?"</p> <p><em>That'</em>s a conversation starter.</p> <p>Telling someone to buy anything is simply an attempt to diss what they're using at the moment, just as the OP felt.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meissner Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <p>I have this weird project going on of making my digital cameras look like view cameras. My first version was putting my Olympus E-P2 inside of the shell of a Kodak Pony Premo 5x7 body without making any permanent changes to the Kodak. The next step is building my own shell, that would allow me to put in bigger bodies and drill holes, etc. While the reaction has mostly been positive, you do get weird responses (somebody said I was cheating for instance). It would have been amusing if the guy had come up to me, and then I would flip the camera around to show the LCD screen of the E-P2 :-)</p> <p>When I'm just shooting with the digital cameras undisguised, every so often, I get people saying I should be shooting with Canon or Nikon. It can be annoying, particularly if I'm trying to concentrate on getting shots (stage shows and fireworks don't wait for the photographer to stop talking to some random passerby wasting his time), and I don't have the time to discuss the ins and outs of my choice of gear. Mostly though it seems people who make such comments tend to be the sorts that think gear alone will make a good picture, but for most pictures, the problem is with the nut behind the camera and not the gear itself. Often times they have low end gear with kit lenses, and are trying to save up to get the Canon 1D and 70-200mm f/2.8 white lens or whatever high end gear floats their boat, and instantly their pictures will become much better. By making a choice that they don't recognize, it means I don't buy into the value system that the high end Canon or Nikon is the holy grail.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_murphy_photography Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <p>What an <em>IGNORANT <strong>DOPE</strong></em>. Apparently he thinks that no good photos existed before digital came along. I would love to see his photos, it's been a while since I had a good <em>belly laugh</em>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_murphy_photography Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <blockquote> <p>People use 35mm, artists use large-format.</p> </blockquote> <p>6x6 at the very least! :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 <blockquote> <p>I get people saying I should be shooting with Canon or Nikon.</p> </blockquote> <p>People actually make those remarks? I think the best retort to that would be, "That's for beginners. As a pro, I shoot with more obscure stuff." :-P</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_2000406 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 <blockquote>People use 35mm, artists use large-format.</blockquote> <p>Better yet: "People use cameras but artists use paint and canvas."</p> <p>;-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_west5 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 <p>Make that "starving artists" and you have my vote.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_south Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 If someone tells you that you should be doing something differently because THEIR way is better, that person is shortsighted at the very least. They probably don't have much experience. If you've 'been around' for a while you've encountered people who can maka amazing photos with all sorts of gear from Polaroids to point-and-shoots to smartphones. Everyone has their own way of working; only a narcissistic fool presumes to know what gear you should use without knowing anything about you or your photographic objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancouverphotographer Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>Well said Matt. I shot both film and digital and it's all just a tool.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exposed1 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>This really took off more than I thought it would. After reading the posts, I have this to comment. I have found that if you use a film camera in this world of digital, you are "out of touch". But what I find interesting is, most that think digital is all there is, have never used film or understand it. Let me restate, NOT ALL THINK THIS WAY, so do not presume that everyone who shoots digital thinks this way. I have been a film shooter for 30 years and a digital shooter for the last 5. I think the person who made this comment to me was in this group, never used film or if he did, does not understand it. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dried_squid Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>If people suggest digital to me, I tell them I can't afford it.</p> <p>My basic kit includes two Nikon FE's, 35mm f/2, and 85mm f/2. If I could, to replace them, I would like two D700's, I like the 2:3 aspect ratio, 35mm f/2 and 85mm f/2. That's a lot of money.</p> <p>Plus the computer hardware and software upgrades. That's more money, and more often.</p> <p>As a computer guy, I know the time and money for upgrades, relearning, and changing workflows. So, I can't afford it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>Actually, Brian, if you already have a decent computer I wouldn't worry about cost. It's likely to be good enough for running Aperture or Lightroom. And you can out-source printing for not much outlay. It really isn't the big deal that it seems. Just IMHO.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dried_squid Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Karim Ghantous - Thanks for the thoughts. There are many intangibles in photography. For example, I like the weight and feel of my old Nikon FE and my fixed-focus AIS lenses. I'm used to the balance. There are many idiosyncrasies in hobbies. And we all make our choices. Couple years ago, instead of buying a new digital SLR and autofocus lens, I chose a new eye-level Gitzo, two heads, and a sidearm. I believe my thirtyish nephew and niece were dumbfounded at the cost. After all, with digital, one can change ISO on the fly. But I'm very much pleased with the choice. And silly me, I believe I was helping the economy. I love 'em, but they just don't understand. Sometimes I wait for a shot - the wind, or the clouds, or the angle of the light, and for times like that, a friendly tripod is worth it. I bet my nephew never waits for a shot. His priorities are different. At this point, my hybrid workflow, film-scan-print works for me. Everybody can take good pictures, it's just that we prefer different ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcossar Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>Uh.....Brian K......the sidearm, as a shooter, would I recognize it?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dried_squid Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>The sidearm attaches to the legs, and then one attaches the head to the sidearm. It allows lateral adjustments without moving the legs.</p> <p>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/20801-REG/Gitzo_G532_G_532_Lateral_Side_Arm.html</p> <p>I've had similar contraptions in the past. I've used them as a make-shift focusing rail, and also in a series of panned shots. Also in combination with the center post inverted.</p> <p>Or were you just joking? Whatever. Happy Holidays.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcossar Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 <p>No Brian....I was serious...lol...to me a 'sidearm' is like this one, which is mine......targets ONLY mind......Happy Christmas to you....Regards, Robert</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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