exposed1 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>My wife and I were in a large city this past weekend for our 5th wedding anniversary and I took my old Nikon action touch film camera. As I stood taking a photo, this fellow stood by me and ask what kind of camera I was using. He was holding a Canon DSLR. I told him what it was and he commented, "get a good digital". I stood there for a bit, my mind racing for the great answer, and out it came, "people us digital, artists use film". He looked at me funny and walked away.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>He was off base, but ... so were you. I know plenty of artists that use whatever tool seems the best fit for a given project. I've also encountered plenty of pretentious hipsters who think that using film makes their bad art better. The choice of medium generally means nothing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>You both should have your heads examined.</p> <p>I say that with the utmost respect, b.t.w. They stopped examining my head when it was clear it was empty.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_thompson9 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I do understand. I have discussions like that all the time. Usually with my wife.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I thought about making a comment here, but then I decided not to. Why bother? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Enh. I'd have given the guy a flippant remark too, probably worse than that. What kind of a jackass does it take to go up to somebody and tell them what kind of camera they should be using? Does he think you've never heard of digital and that he's offering you some helpful advice?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>He was being very rude, so I think your somewhat snide riposte was completely appropriate, if not entirely accurate in a factual sense.</p> <p>I've never had anyone say anything like that to me. Most people seem not to notice that I have a film camera; those that remark on it usually find it interesting, or have film cameras themselves.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Reminds me of a similar experience in reverse.</p> <p>I was on a nature outing with my Nikon D70 and came across a young man with a Nikon FM. He couldn't have been older than 18. We exchanged glances at one another's gear.</p> <p>My thoughts were on my own FM at home dormant for the last 20 years as I smiled at him. </p> <p>I can't speak to his thoughts but the impression I got was "People use digital, artists use film".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Just tell 'em you're using film to be ironic. No other explanation is needed... or possible.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <blockquote> <p>Enh. I'd have given the guy a flippant remark too, probably worse than that. What kind of a jackass does it take to go up to somebody and tell them what kind of camera they should be using? Does he think you've never heard of digital and that he's offering you some helpful advice?</p> </blockquote> <p>+1 on that. This isn't a film/digital thing. It's a "that dude was a jerk" thing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <blockquote> <p>He was being very rude, so I think your somewhat snide riposte was completely appropriate,</p> </blockquote> <p>I disagree completely. If someone says something rude or ignorant to me, I try to spend some time talking with them to understand where they are coming from and try to talk to them about the subject. The idea that somehow rudeness and ignorance begets a rude and ignorant response doesn't lead to a very pleasant world.</p> <p>BTW, if someone said "People use digital, artists use film" to me, I would assume they were pretty ignorant and try and help them understand that artists use what they want.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>+1 to Matt's answer. However the stranger was the original jack ass.<br> However, my answer would've been, "None of your business.... or, as if!", or even, "You must be a real asshat n00b to come up to a stranger and say something so dumb."</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_thomas1 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>About 20 years ago, I remember getting the same smug advise/comments from the technologically superior APS users.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_west5 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 People use 35mm, artists use large-format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I would have asked him all about digital and what it could offer. Could have been an interesting conversation and he could have turned out to be a jolly nice fellow who was just over enthusiast as he had just bought a new camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleswood Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Or replied with humor? I'm waiting for 1000 mega pixels. Or saying I know, that's what I tell my wife I need. Jackasses usually appreciate marginal jokes at the wife's expense. I'm not much of a wit. Anyone want to try?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fate_faith_change_chains Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>You could have told him to get a Leica.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unangelino Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <blockquote> <p><em>If someone says something rude or ignorant to me, I try to spend some time talking with them to understand where they are coming from and try to talk to them about the subject.</em></p> </blockquote> <p>The odds an intrusive doofuss would have anything interesting to say, or that he might benefit from your enlightenment, are very poor indeed.</p> <p>Just crack off a clever one liner and move on...the more clever the one liner, the less likely the doofuss is to get it anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>There's a George Carlin one-liner I always use under such situations regardless of topic, and it always seems appropriate:<br> "You know, those who dance appear insane to those who can't hear the music."</p> <p>The reaction is always puzzlement and bewilderment, but I always get the last laugh.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_mann1 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>@Paul C - I agree completely. I'm terrible at thinking up good one-liner responses, but I would have tried some sort of a seemingly sincere reply like, "Thanks for your comment. You know, I really thought about bringing my 1D Mark III, but I'm going for a nostalgic retro-cinema feel for this shot, and it takes me more time to achieve the look I want in post processing compared to simply shooting film. What's your experience with this?" For maximum effect, your comment to him must be followed up by a direct and *very* sincere gaze while waiting for his answer. <br> <br />;-)</p> <p>Tom M</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_cheshire Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I'm surprised no one came up with the reply "Why?".</p> <p>Or "I haven't worn out this one yet."</p> <p>Or "No thanks. I like a real camera."</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_needham Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I'd recommend getting used to it, and just letting it go. The silliest things I've ever heard about photography and cameras come out of photographers' mouths. </p> <p>Once I had a kid comment "Cool Rolleiflex. I tried one in college. I love the soft images." Since my Rolleiflexes produce fantastically sharp photos I can only assume he couldn't manually focus, didn't understand camera shake, or was using a broken camera, but when I suggested those things he looked at me like I was crazy. What can you do? :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis_g Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>I would have just smiled and said "thank you, I'll keep that in mind", or if I had enough time, taken the Jeff route, but not engaged in a retort, tempting as it might be.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>This class of person that you're referring to is classed as either a know-all or know-it-all, depending on which side of the Atlantic one is. Know-it-alls usually aim, subconsciously, to put others down in order to raise themselves up. They might even be friendly, but that is only to show how friendly 'superior' beings are. It all comes down to insecurity.</p> <p>One I read in Practical Photography ages ago: a guy with a Bronica on a tripod is shooting a night scene with mixed lighting. Second man comes up, 35mm SLR around his neck, and tells the first guy a) he can't/shouldn't shoot mixed lighting, and b) he should replace that camera with a 35mm SLR like the one around his neck.</p> <p>No wonder people don't understand basic natural principles or subtleties and limitations of understanding history. Some people learn something and then STOP. No need for anything more.</p> <p>Some potentially good replies, not that I would say anything in return except 'maybe':</p> <p>- I'm waiting for my inheritance to come through.<br> - My RED Scarlet is in for a sensor replacement. What's that? You don't know what that is? Here, let me write the URL for you.<br> - Where I work we all use film so it just rubbed off. Where do I work? FBI. You?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stp Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 <p>Like Charles, I think humor is the best way to approach this, even if the guy was being a jerk. The response I really like was suggested by someone on photo.net a while back: a good response might have been, "I like to use a <em><strong>real</strong></em> camera," all the while offering a genuine smile.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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