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Are any stores "dumping" D60s?


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<p>I'm not seeing any indications that Nikon overproduced the D60 to the extent that deep discounts would be necessary to liquidate an overstock. Nikon doesn't often get caught with SLRs that are no longer marketable at the original retail prices. The exceptions that come to mind were the D2H and D200. That's a pretty good track record considering both the fickle nature of the dSLR market and the bumpy economy.</p>
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<p>Eric -<br>

thanks for pointing that out to me... I guess I wasn't in the market for one at the time - otherwise I would have seen it...</p>

<p>And yes - D40's are still selling.... kind of like the VW beetle - Nikon just can't kill that camera.<br>

Dave</p>

 

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<p>I was able to buy a brand new D200 for $599 from bestbuy and used it for a few months and sold it on ebay for $695. It was a great camera but after having the D300 it wasn't good enough and I went back to the D300 where I will stay. I am finished "upgrading" my camera equipment and will concentrate on lenses. However, if the D3 is ever discounted to $1999 body only I'll be very tempted to pick one up for sure.</p>
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<p>One year ago, a yearned badly for a D300 to shoot sports but did not (could not) part with $1.600 to support my "hobby". I couldn't imagin telling my wife the family can't go to Cape Cod next summer because I blew our savings on a new camera...yeah that would go over real well...especially since I already own a D50 andn D2H. Anyway, about that D2H....it's interesting how a camera could be launched in the $3,000 dollar price point and drop like a stone just 5 years later. Almost exactly one year ago, I found a lightly used (10,000 actuations) used on eBay for $350 bucks. I really wanted the rapid frame rate for shooting sports...and its been great fun getting to know what it's like to shoot with a pro body....jump to the present and I was excited to learn the release of the D300s, and I thought woo hoo here's my chance to score a D300 on clearance, but holy christmas it's darn hard to find a body anywhere, and when I do find one on some obscure electronics retail web site--it "ain't at no discount!!"--its usually at the same price as the D300s!!!....Nikon must have really "nailed it" when it came to the timing/marketing of their D300 and D3 cameras as I can't imagine the D3 (which has already been out on the market for 2 years) going for sub 1,000 price in 3 years, like the D2H did for me being 5 years young in 2008. That being said, what are some of the factors, i.e. technological maturation, market dynamics, etc that will prevent the D3 from following in the footsteps of the D2H? Really, I wish it would (LOL)...but anyway I shake my head in dismay...</p>
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<p>what are some of the factors, i.e. technological maturation, market dynamics, etc that will prevent the D3 from following in the footsteps of the D2H? Really, I wish it would (LOL)...but anyway I shake my head in dismay...</p>

 

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<p>a lot of it has to do with market innovation. we've reached a point of saturation, and there's more growth in the $500-$1500 DSLR range than the $1500-$5000 range. the d200 was a $1600 prosumer camera in 2005; in 2009 it was worth less new than an entry-level model. if you look at the progression of nikon DSLRs,i think with the d300 they got to a point where the camera was as good as current technology allowed at that price point, by addressing the weaknesses of previous bodies. the d300s isnt half as innovative as the d300, so if you own one now, no reason to update. and if you dont, the d90/d5000 offer the same IQ, MP count, and high-ISO performance at consumer prices.</p>

<p>to some extent, the MP race is over--we're already seeing the high-end compact market scaling back MP counts to get better low-light performance. in the enthusiast market, canon is still upping the ante with the 7d, but that's really a belated response to the d300 which maybe prevents more canonites from jumping ship than causing an exodus of nikonians. the d300's damage has already been done, and though we might see modest increases in MP count above 12, for many people, they dont need more than that. a lot of market dynamics are being driven by software rather than mechanical innovation; the average joe consumer doesnt really need 24 MPs to take Disneyland pics, but could probably use acceptable ISO 3200 performance of Aunt Millie's holiday party.</p>

<p>if the d3 price falls, below $3k, it will because there are newer models with better features, like the D3s sensor, which improves lowlight performance over the d3/d700. but by that time, there's probably wont be a backlog of d3s sitting on shelves, as nikon doesnt make as many of those as, say d5000s.</p>

<p>also, if a d300 @ $1600 is out of your reach now, how will you afford a $3k D3 in the event that happens?</p>

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<p>Never said I could afford a D3 at 3 thousand...Simply using the sub (less than) $1,000 price as an analogy compared to the D2H, which sold used for 10-15% of its original retail price after only 5 years on the market. After doing hours of research, I have come to the conclusion that the D300 would be the last DX DSL I would ever need. </p>
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<p>the D2H, which sold used for 10-15% of its original retail price after only 5 years on the market.</p>

 

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<p>ah, but those 5 years were times of extremely rapid innovation and turnover, as MP counts, sensor formats, AF modules, processors, external features like LCD screens and viewfinders and internal bells and whistles all changed several times over. there are still people that are happy with the 6mp d70s and d40s, although the D2H benchmark of 4.1 MP just doesnt cut it for a lot of applications, though the build quality and frame rate are still pro-caliber.</p>

<p>now that the market has stabilized to some degree, there's probably less groundbreaking innovation overall. the new race seems to be to build a (somewhat) affordable compact with DSLR-like performance, which happens to coincide with the market segment which is actually growing--which isnt high-end or pro cameras.</p>

<p>overall, i'm satisfied with the d300, so i'll probably wait for a d400 or d800 before i even think about upgrading...though if the d700 falls below $2k, it could be tempting...</p>

<p>i seriously doubt we'll see a used d300 going for $250-$300 by 2014. i do think that more high-end features will eventually trickle down to entry-level and just-above entry-level cameras if they havent already. competitions till plays a big role; Canon users have D300 owners to thank for the 7d's improved fps and AF, and hopefully, oneday soon, Coolpix owners will have something similar to the LX3, G11 and S90.</p>

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<p>Ronald,</p>

<p>Yup -- it appears we can still get a new D40. I would go up to the D3000 before buying a D40, though. I was just looking for a really good deal on another D60 similar to the deal I got on that D200 earlier this year.</p>

<p>And thanks for staying within the topic of my original post. Can you believe how some of these folks have hijacked the thread?</p>

<p>Will</p>

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<p>Consider yourself lucky that you got an excellent close out, fire sale deal on the D200. The D200 was replaced by the D300, which is a much much better camera. Nikon made the mistake of having way too many remaining D200 in stock that they couldn't sell anywhere near its original price any more.</p>

<p>The D60, however, is replaced by the D3000, which uses the same sensor. There are AF and LCD improvements on the D3000, but all in all, it is a more moderate improvement. And it is unlikely that Nikon would make the same mistake getting stuck with many of the old model again. At this point pretty much all new D60 bodies are long gone and so are new D300 bodies.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I was lucky to get that deal. Back when I was in the photo industry we offered closeout deals to selected dealers all the time. It was an industry standard at one time -- pick a dealer and dump all the old stock at special prices, or with special selections of accessories to sweeten the deal.</p>

<p>Will</p>

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